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HiPointDem

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89. i want a link to the *cnn* retraction, not a link to some website saying it happened.

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:40 AM

Jul 2013

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especially not what appears to be a conservative website, whose other news flashes include 'poverty drops to lowest level ever and media turns a blind eye'.

martin was born feb 5 1995, which means he had just turned 17 when he was shot feb 26, 2012.

this is a picture dated august 2009, when he was 14 & 1/2.

photos taken for prom, probably junior prom (he was a junior when he died).

pictures labeled 'birthday' on his myspace page:

and a larger image of the widely circulated picture, where you can see he has some teenage muscle on him, not the arms of a 12-year-old.

photos taken days before he died, at his mother's birthday. 5'11", 158 lbs at his death, verified by the coroner.

zimmerman at the time of the murder was 5'8", 194#. verified by zimmerman.

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Re: Martin/Zimmerman - why was / is there an effort to paint a picture that wasn't / isn't real? [View all] Skip Intro Jul 2013 OP

Zimmerman still murdered a kid. Can't change that. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #1

But the SYG apologists billh58 Jul 2013 #3

And they are trying. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #5

Killed, he was found not guilty of murder rl6214 Jul 2013 #103

He still murdered him. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #131

+100 billh58 Jul 2013 #140

Thats right! hrmjustin Jul 2013 #141

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #174

Your hero Zimmerman billh58 Jul 2013 #175

why did Zimmerman follow Trayvon in the first place JI7 Jul 2013 #2

bullshit, he didn't say 'fucking cold,' it doesn't even make sense in the context. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #4

CNN made a retraction or "correction." n/t Skip Intro Jul 2013 #10

"This time we're not lying! I swear!" Atman Jul 2013 #46

your other claim, about the photo, is also false. see here: HiPointDem Jul 2013 #87

Link for "c**n" retraction: Skip Intro Jul 2013 #88

i want a link to the *cnn* retraction, not a link to some website saying it happened. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #89

Ok. Skip Intro Jul 2013 #94

thank you for going to the trouble. it still sounds like 'fucking coons' to me, and the situation HiPointDem Jul 2013 #100

It was a cold and rainy night. Jenoch Jul 2013 #154

If it was so effin COLD, why didn't he get in his truck & let the cops do their job ... Myrina Jul 2013 #158

I agree, he never should have left his vehicle, Jenoch Jul 2013 #165

But it's no big deal. I mean Zimmerman is fine. yardwork Jul 2013 #169

What's no big deal? Jenoch Jul 2013 #170

The whole thing, for George. No serious consequences. yardwork Jul 2013 #171

I think it is a big deal for Zimmerman. Jenoch Jul 2013 #173

He isn't in hiding. He was out rescuing motorists the other day. yardwork Jul 2013 #193

Godwin's Law rears it's ugly head. Jenoch Jul 2013 #196

Nonsense. I didn't compare anybody to Hitler. yardwork Jul 2013 #238

It read to that you Jenoch Jul 2013 #239

No, I didn't say any of that. yardwork Jul 2013 #251

You mentioned Nazis and South America. Jenoch Jul 2013 #252

I am putting you on ignore. It appears to be impossible to talk with you. yardwork Jul 2013 #253

I was just explaining why I responded the way I did. Jenoch Jul 2013 #254

or...perhaps 'fucking punks'? well, so much for the 'cleaned up' audioS... HiPointDem Jul 2013 #159

I'm wondering about the punks thing too. Jenoch Jul 2013 #164

no. just two different 'experts' 'cleaning up.' strangely enough, the 'cleaning' comes out HiPointDem Jul 2013 #166

Your link makes me so sad. IdaBriggs Jul 2013 #162

When it comes to the media Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #6

Foxnews is good at that. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #11

They all are Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #14

But you have to admit fox is the most sleaziest and lied the most about this case. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #17

I really never watched it, so I can't say n/t Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #18

Well you are doing yourself a favor. It turned my stomach everytime I watched. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #21

Honestly, I don't watch any TV news Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #42

Just truckloads of foundation $$$ from Gates and Walmart. n/t Smarmie Doofus Jul 2013 #22

Actually, they do worry about Jenoch Jul 2013 #155

WTF? He said "f*ing cold"? I thought they finally agreed it was "fucking punks"? You're not taking uppityperson Jul 2013 #7

They took back the "fucking c**n" claim. Skip Intro Jul 2013 #20

"c**n" and "goon" are closer than "cold". Are you saying that is one thing the media manipulated to uppityperson Jul 2013 #26

Well, yes, it could be. Skip Intro Jul 2013 #33

John Fugelsand posted the audio and I listened to it. Marie Marie Jul 2013 #50

Usually the racist like to portray TM in the worse possible way and Z in the best regardless of the uponit7771 Jul 2013 #8

perhaps...still Epiphany4z Jul 2013 #9

Zimmy was 28, not "over 30" uppityperson Jul 2013 #27

I didn't know Z is over 30?? OhShitNotAgain Jul 2013 #135

CNN got it wrong, he didn't say "fucking cold"... Spazito Jul 2013 #12

These are valid questions but don't expect an answer joeglow3 Jul 2013 #13

| "I'm not taking a side" | Right, give me a friggin' break quinnox Jul 2013 #15

The Gungeoneers are billh58 Jul 2013 #176

They do it for Zimmy just like they did for *bush. FarPoint Jul 2013 #16

Hi Skip. pintobean Jul 2013 #19

A child is dead...he wasn't breaking any laws. Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #23

The OP is about the media and shit reporting. pintobean Jul 2013 #32

Shit reporting like changing what was clearly "fucking coons" MattBaggins Jul 2013 #35

I swear the early tapes sure sounded like c word. Doesn't matter, Z is a bigot with a gun. Hoyt Jul 2013 #79

Still waiting for you to prove the bigot part rl6214 Jul 2013 #104

All the bigots supporting him are proof enough. But fact he took off after Trayvon is enough Hoyt Jul 2013 #106

And waiting rl6214 Jul 2013 #108

yep libodem Jul 2013 #111

what's telling to me is that various experts turn the sound into such a variety of sounds, none HiPointDem Jul 2013 #167

I don't think that's a safe assumption at all. Donald Ian Rankin Jul 2013 #232

Hey Skip Intro Jul 2013 #25

Im starting to believe that name calling is how DU does discuss things.. OhShitNotAgain Jul 2013 #137

You just got here and thats what you think? hrmjustin Jul 2013 #138

so because I just signed up it means what I haven't been here reading discussions for a couple years? OhShitNotAgain Jul 2013 #143

This is a discussion board and people get into it my friend. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #144

I'm not getting into this discussion... OhShitNotAgain Jul 2013 #145

Oh ok well I hope you have fun on this board. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #146

Strange isn't billh58 Jul 2013 #177

Mirt got rid of a whole bunch today. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #178

Yep, MIRT is billh58 Jul 2013 #179

They are attracted to us. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #180

LOL! billh58 Jul 2013 #181

The come from the cave a lot of the time. They love to boast about how they have moles here. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #182

Right-Wingers billh58 Jul 2013 #184

I think I angered a few of them yesterday and today because I did not believe Zimmerman saved that hrmjustin Jul 2013 #185

I was just called billh58 Jul 2013 #186

Did you alert? hrmjustin Jul 2013 #187

No, I just responded. billh58 Jul 2013 #188

My God some people just say dumb things. I got called McCarthy today because I asked a new poster hrmjustin Jul 2013 #189

I saw that. billh58 Jul 2013 #190

I see you friends post was hidden. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #191

Thanks. n/t billh58 Jul 2013 #192

He must really have billh58 Jul 2013 #240

Next time they send you pms like that alert on them. There is an alert function on mail. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #244

Thanks for billh58 Jul 2013 #246

I have never gotten hate mail here but if I did i would alert in a second. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #247

I agree. billh58 Jul 2013 #248

I don't normally get into it with them but I have in the past 2 weeks. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #249

Well, you got your answer, didn't you? oldhippie Jul 2013 #151

because you like disruption CreekDog Jul 2013 #222

Skip a question for you. Who do you sympathize with more GZ or TM? hrmjustin Jul 2013 #24

Is water wet? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #28

Thanks for asking. My answer is, why do you ask that question? Skip Intro Jul 2013 #29

Ok fine lets talk about foxnews coverage and how biased it was. Do you agree it was biased? hrmjustin Jul 2013 #31

Didn't watch it. You saying OP examples are real, but ok? Skip Intro Jul 2013 #39

Well if Zimmerman sues he can get money so the Martin family can sue him for all he has. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #41

The question isn't whether he can or should sue. It's a bigger question than that. Skip Intro Jul 2013 #47

The media have been manipulating things since before you or I were born. This is nothing new. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #53

I'm talking about the media. This thread is about the media. Skip Intro Jul 2013 #61

Yes manipulation is wrong and he can sue. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #63

The media has always reported untrue and biased things, but it didn't used to do that 24/7. Nay Jul 2013 #148

A 17 year old kid is dead and your worried about George. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #49

Getting personal again? Skip Intro Jul 2013 #54

I am not attacking you but your position. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #58

My position? What position? Seriously, what position? Skip Intro Jul 2013 #62

You seem to worry about Zimmerman and his image in the media. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #65

Not about Z, about entities we trust to be honest lying to Skip Intro Jul 2013 #66

The media has an agenda. This is nothing new. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #68

He seems very concerned about who we have sympathy for... Pelican Jul 2013 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Jul 2013 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author Pelican Jul 2013 #84

Bullshit, Zimmerman said "c**ns", audio analysis AZ Progressive Jul 2013 #30

Sounds like punks to me...hmmm.. Nt jmg257 Jul 2013 #36

"CNN later retracted its statement" Skip Intro Jul 2013 #43

I'm Hispanic, I'm darker Tien1985 Jul 2013 #34

i think he looks hispanic but anyone can be racist, he is racist against other hispanics also JI7 Jul 2013 #44

he would ignore me, a middle aged white gal Skittles Jul 2013 #64

At least you are aware of it! tnlefty Jul 2013 #57

I have three sons, who have all been 17 and larger than Trayvon at 17, and I did explain to one of tnlefty Jul 2013 #37

There is only two people that know what really happened that night notadmblnd Jul 2013 #38

I wish they had not used that 14 year old photo treestar Jul 2013 #40

It was a rainy February evening the night that Trayvon was killed. I doubt it was "hot weather." yardwork Jul 2013 #71

right wing lie #3455 treestar Jul 2013 #73

The internet is full of lies... That is an understatement. OhShitNotAgain Jul 2013 #150

I wish defense didn't use photo to prejudice the prejudiced jury. Hoyt Jul 2013 #83

Now it was a prejudiced jury rl6214 Jul 2013 #105

Clearly B37 was a bigot, fool, and had carried a gun in past. Hoyt Jul 2013 #107

But no one has commented on the other five jurors rl6214 Jul 2013 #109

They were worse, and are ashamed of their vote, or know they should be. Hoyt Jul 2013 #110

Of course they were, but YOU know better rl6214 Jul 2013 #112

you got what you wanted Skittles Jul 2013 #45

That's a damn good question I would pose Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #48

a paranoid gun humper, a PROVEN threat to society, is free to walk the streets - armed Skittles Jul 2013 #51

I believe it is a concerted effort Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #56

You wild rebel... Pelican Jul 2013 #82

Nope, just a Democrat Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #122

They want us to love him, too, and "admit" that the dead black boy is actually the "thug" alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #59

yes, that is exactly right Skittles Jul 2013 #60

I've had run ins with a few members of the DU Zimmerman Fan Club AndyA Jul 2013 #152

They love a dead black body alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #55

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #52

What are you talking about? Skip Intro Jul 2013 #67

oh that's right, you're "not taking sides" Skittles Jul 2013 #70

Ok, whatever. n/t Skip Intro Jul 2013 #72

Yep, none of the billh58 Jul 2013 #124

LOL Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #76

People like kicking around a dead kid's body? Rex Jul 2013 #92

Actually, you're wrong. Your facts are wrong. yardwork Jul 2013 #69

The head smashing thing is the biggest red flag. Incitatus Jul 2013 #74

And in all of the pictures of his "terrible head wounds"... Bettie Jul 2013 #161

The story has been crafted to get maximum outrage for the buck... Pelican Jul 2013 #75

The media loves to take advantage of stories like this. Just look how fox covered this story. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #77

yes, the gun humpers just cannot help piling it on Skittles Jul 2013 #93

I think we can all agree that it was initially pushed... Pelican Jul 2013 #95

thinking people can all agree Skittles Jul 2013 #97

K... Pelican Jul 2013 #99

You know, mzteris Jul 2013 #80

A unarmed teenager was walking home Peaceplace80 Jul 2013 #85

The picture was NOT of TM as a 14 yeae old. It was taken just a few months before he was killed lunamagica Jul 2013 #86

How does the Martin kid suddenly turn into a homicidal maniac? reusrename Jul 2013 #90

Who said that? Skip Intro Jul 2013 #96

You said you don't know if it was self defense. reusrename Jul 2013 #101

Well as long as you are not disappointed in DUers Rex Jul 2013 #91

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #98

Branded with reason. If Teabaggers believe the same as you, it's highly likely. Hoyt Jul 2013 #113

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #114

Apparently, even though facts are clear, you don't want to accept georgie is a bigot and gun Hoyt Jul 2013 #115

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #117

How in the billh58 Jul 2013 #142

oh gawd, yet another one Skittles Jul 2013 #118

Nah, I'd give odds it's just galileoreloaded gracing us with their presence again. Electric Monk Jul 2013 #119

racist gun humpers really toe the NRA line, don't they Skittles Jul 2013 #120

I believe you are the one attempting to "paint a picture that isnt real" quakerboy Jul 2013 #102

Hispanics were considered white from time to time by the U.S. Census AZ Progressive Jul 2013 #116

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #127

Not anymore. 840high Jul 2013 #129

That story is so last week. Inkfreak Jul 2013 #121

Wow, it is so nice to see someone admit that they don't know Vattel Jul 2013 #123

I listened to the recording many times madville Jul 2013 #125

125 responses ...... oldhippie Jul 2013 #126

the OP brings up a very good point Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #130

Huh DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #133

So typical ....... oldhippie Jul 2013 #134

What facts that I posited are in dispute?/nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #136

You didn't post any facts .... oldhippie Jul 2013 #149

The police dispatcher asked Zimmerman not to follow Trayvon. He ignored him. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #153

You're not going to get it ..... oldhippie Jul 2013 #157

You seem mad, bro. I hope I didn't upset you/nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #160

Why would Zimmerman care what the dispatcher said? McPops Jul 2013 #197

How did Trayvon make a mistake? hrmjustin Jul 2013 #198

I don't know if he made a mistake in judgment McPops Jul 2013 #201

He walked home with a bag of Skittles and a drink and Zimmerman had a gun. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #202

Well we do know... McPops Jul 2013 #214

What do you think of Zimmerman. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #215

Never met the man McPops Jul 2013 #223

And your thoughts on Trayvon? hrmjustin Jul 2013 #224

Probably doesn't matter since he wasn't on trial. McPops Jul 2013 #230

Where did you hear that from Rush, Hannity, or Fox? hrmjustin Jul 2013 #245

So when you walk home from the store BainsBane Jul 2013 #200

I have a problem McPops Jul 2013 #204

Yet you have no problem with Zimmerman's killing Trayvon BainsBane Jul 2013 #205

Was that the reason? McPops Jul 2013 #207

So you blame trayvon for this? hrmjustin Jul 2013 #209

He saw a black teenager, considered him dangerous on sight BainsBane Jul 2013 #210

Are you seriously suggesting that Zimmerman's reasons for killing are the same as Bundy's? McPops Jul 2013 #218

So is your sympathy with Zimmerman or Trayvon? hrmjustin Jul 2013 #221

Why would my sympathies matter? McPops Jul 2013 #225

Do you feel upset that Travon is dead? hrmjustin Jul 2013 #226

See previous response McPops Jul 2013 #231

Both are killers BainsBane Jul 2013 #250

When Zimmerman said he would follow Trayvon DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #236

Hmmmm... Klukie Jul 2013 #128

I don't listen to the media anymore OwnedByCats Jul 2013 #132

24 hour news cycle nil desperandum Jul 2013 #156

Nothing wrong with asking questions Capt. Obvious Jul 2013 #139

I personally believe that both sides are full of it. ieoeja Jul 2013 #147

Of course there's been such an effort. Look at the racial aspect. badtoworse Jul 2013 #163

And Trevor Dooley went to jail for Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #168

you don't like any claim of racism against a black person, period. CreekDog Jul 2013 #172

Zimmerman is a racist wanna-be cop Pablo Guachupita Jul 2013 #183

He probably has one by now McPops Jul 2013 #194

He is a murderer so he should not have one. In my opinion the jury made the wrong choice. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #195

I have not seen billh58 Jul 2013 #242

Why would he need a gun? Rex Jul 2013 #199

What makes you say that? Socal31 Jul 2013 #208

Suddenly you take the totally opposite point of view BainsBane Jul 2013 #211

As surely as we know OJ is a murderer, we also know Zimmerman is a murderer. DrewFlorida Jul 2013 #203

Truth by blatant assertion McPops Jul 2013 #206

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #212

Go ahead and say how you feel. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #213

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what made you sign up if thats how you feel? hrmjustin Jul 2013 #217

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Ok fair enough. Enjoy the site. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #220

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Zombies do not last long. uppityperson Jul 2013 #228

Know what's even better? Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #229

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #233

even better than that Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #234

The only things I know, is that if Z had stayed in his car after calling the non emergency line, and Little Star Jul 2013 #235

Snopes debunks the TM pic lies, and I have a question for you: OneGrassRoot Jul 2013 #237

Well, Skip Intro Jul 2013 #241

The pic in question has been reported by right-wingers as age 12... OneGrassRoot Jul 2013 #243

How it happened jimrich Jul 2013 #255