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In reply to the discussion: In FL there are Blacks who shoot Whites and use SYG and get off. [View all]DevonRex
(22,541 posts)161. "Florida's Stand Your Ground Defense More Likely To Succeed If Victim Is Black: Study"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/06/stand-your-ground-defense-study_n_1575686.html
A newspaper report has found that the Stand Your Ground self-defense statute in Florida is more likely to succeed when the victim is black.
The Tampa Bay Times looked at 200 cases and found that in instances in which the victim was black, the person who invoked the defense went free 73 percent of the time. If the victim was white, the person walked free 59 percent of the time. The report also found that more than two thirds of all the people who invoked the law were acquitted, and that the defense is being invoked in more and more cases.
"People often go free under 'stand your ground' in cases that seem to make a mockery of what lawmakers intended," wrote the Times reporters. "One man killed two unarmed people and walked out of jail. Another shot a man as he lay on the ground. Others went free after shooting their victims in the back. In nearly a third of the cases the Times analyzed, defendants initiated the fight, shot an unarmed person or pursued their victim and still went free."
A newspaper report has found that the Stand Your Ground self-defense statute in Florida is more likely to succeed when the victim is black.
The Tampa Bay Times looked at 200 cases and found that in instances in which the victim was black, the person who invoked the defense went free 73 percent of the time. If the victim was white, the person walked free 59 percent of the time. The report also found that more than two thirds of all the people who invoked the law were acquitted, and that the defense is being invoked in more and more cases.
"People often go free under 'stand your ground' in cases that seem to make a mockery of what lawmakers intended," wrote the Times reporters. "One man killed two unarmed people and walked out of jail. Another shot a man as he lay on the ground. Others went free after shooting their victims in the back. In nearly a third of the cases the Times analyzed, defendants initiated the fight, shot an unarmed person or pursued their victim and still went free."
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In FL there are Blacks who shoot Whites and use SYG and get off. [View all]
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2013
OP
I missed it too. She confronted him a couple months AFTER the shooting incident.
rdharma
Jul 2013
#125
she wasnt supposed to go near them she was out on bond and was supposed to stay away from them
leftyohiolib
Jul 2013
#26
Wow. I have bookmarked that for the next time someone brings her up. N/T
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2013
#231
She didn't have any sort of restraining order against her at the time of the shooting.
rdharma
Jul 2013
#131
Maybe he used their children to lure/bait her into coming to the house........
TheDebbieDee
Jul 2013
#227
Bull-Fucking-Shit this thread of yours we're in right now isn't because of the Zimmerman case. nt
Electric Monk
Jul 2013
#110
She went to the garage, got the gun, returned to the house, fired the shot. N/T
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2013
#191
excpt the evidence doesnt show a warning shot. she fired at him and missd. the shot went thru the
leftyohiolib
Jul 2013
#23
It probably didn't help her cause much after her attorney said she fired a warning shot into the
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#128
One might think in non-fatal cases like these are, there might be 2 witnesses, not just 1
uppityperson
Jul 2013
#7
How is the OP pro-Zimmerman? It says nothing at all about Z, TM, or the trial.
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2013
#20
Yes, they certainly seem to have a vested interest in not understanding. Because, guns....
Electric Monk
Jul 2013
#39
it's the *same* sample as in the OP. and it's not a 'sample,' it's the entire universe of syg cases
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#59
not any more 'misleading' than absolute numbers where there are a 'small number of cases'.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#65
no; the percentages and absolute numbers give the *same* fucking picture. duh.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#72
the difference is not just 'one,' because the difference is not just about the small # of b/w or
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#94
If the victim is black, whites have a much better chance of being exonerated.
hay rick
Jul 2013
#223
i heard the %age as 35% of white on black syg goes free compared to 3% blk on why syg
leftyohiolib
Jul 2013
#28
excpt you dont know how they came to these number and neither do i i heard this on the randi rhodes
leftyohiolib
Jul 2013
#37
yes, i do. the op used the same tampa bay times sample. the op cherry picks it. and it's
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#60
you took only b/w & w/b. which as you yourself acknowledge is a handful of cases.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#90
Because I am pointing out that the number are very similar for cross-racial shootings.
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2013
#107
oh hipoint , i was replying to green point's post and i was refering to the 35% to 3% numbers from
leftyohiolib
Jul 2013
#76
The law says you have to REASONABLY fear for loss of life or serious bodily injury
davidn3600
Jul 2013
#49
That's where the DEFENSE was SYG. SYG language is used in jury instructions even when defense
blm
Jul 2013
#22
I didn't even analyze the numbers. It is a stupid premise. the thing I care about?
Pretzel_Warrior
Jul 2013
#38
I'd do my best to rationalize a crap law and deflect the attention to that too...
LanternWaste
Jul 2013
#44
Confirmation Bias Man says: "Remember, kids, posts like this aren't race-baiting!"
Robb
Jul 2013
#66
"Some of them folks just needs a killin." Wow, is your world view ever fucked up.
Electric Monk
Jul 2013
#170
If you think that violent criminals are only doing it for money then you are naive.
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2013
#178
"Florida's Stand Your Ground Defense More Likely To Succeed If Victim Is Black: Study"
DevonRex
Jul 2013
#161
It was a warning shot according to all of the links I have researched via GOOGLE
c588415
Jul 2013
#247
That is how the law has ruled. You don't get to overturn those rulings.
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2013
#257
How 'bout this... get some fucking pepper spray or mace if you need to buy some time for a retreat
Ed Suspicious
Jul 2013
#253
There are big problems with relying on pepper spray as an only defense.
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2013
#256