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Bluenorthwest

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62. Sorry but the closet is harmful to others, to lie to our faces is to lie to our faces

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:45 PM

Jul 2013

no one has any reason nor right to make active deceptions toward others. Both of them sat in silence while Barack Obama wept about the Sanctity of one man,one woman marriage and did not say a fucking word. You say this is perhaps because while they want to have the wild life, they also want to pretend to be something they are not, so they help sell lies about marriage, God, other people, faith in order to preserve that lie?
I'm sorry, but to claim 'they are in an open relationship, but they are not open about it' is dangerous Straight Folk thinking. It's not open if you lie about it. It is a thing you do to others if you lie about it. 'Open' and 'Covert' are not the same thing. Cake and eat it too.
If they have an open relationship and stand up weeping about therapy and staying together for the kids, they are creepy, awful liars.

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No one who has had sex with someone other than their spouse should ever be elected to office. [View all] last1standing Jul 2013 OP

Like you, I'd prefer some sanity on this issue, truebluegreen Jul 2013 #1

I wouldn't mind so much if they Ilsa Jul 2013 #2

Isn't that subjecting someone else's relationship to your standard? last1standing Jul 2013 #5

Right on! Relationships are more than sex. jzola Jul 2013 #8

They shouldn't judge but obviously do. last1standing Jul 2013 #15

In our society it opens it all up to criticism Ilsa Jul 2013 #9

Then it's time for society to change. last1standing Jul 2013 #12

Does a promise mean anything any more? Ilsa Jul 2013 #19

He didn't promise you or me that he wouldn't sext with women other than his wife. last1standing Jul 2013 #21

No. He told the public that what he did was wrong and that he was seeking "treatment" onenote Jul 2013 #36

That's a whole lot of conditions to put on a candidate. last1standing Jul 2013 #39

one that was caught, lied about it, lied about 'treatment' onenote Jul 2013 #67

I still see it as between him and his wife, not us. last1standing Jul 2013 #68

BTW, based on her comments, it sounds to me Ilsa Jul 2013 #14

And that was her decision, made with her husband. last1standing Jul 2013 #20

This. As long as it's between consenting adults, I don't care Arkansas Granny Jul 2013 #10

This is my point: some people are as addicted Ilsa Jul 2013 #22

some people are addicted to cigarettes VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #60

We presume. Chan790 Jul 2013 #92

She could have remained silent, but she Ilsa Jul 2013 #106

It would be better if those born of the sexual act were banned from holding office. Dawson Leery Jul 2013 #3

I mean,who *hasn't* tweeted their cock to college girls? Sheesh. (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #4

You might be very surprised by how many have. last1standing Jul 2013 #7

I have always said I would rather they screw someone other than their partner instead of hollysmom Jul 2013 #6

Only those who have not been Jenoch Jul 2013 #11

That's really the standard some are advocating. last1standing Jul 2013 #13

No, it's not "keep me ignorant so I don't have to think." Squinch Jul 2013 #104

Say what? InkPID Jul 2013 #16

Welcome to DU ... surrealAmerican Jul 2013 #51

How many average men... Change has come Jul 2013 #75

how about vitter? he is still there. how many others. ejpoeta Jul 2013 #102

And so, probably, will Spitzer. But Weiner got caught, lied, lied some more, got caught AGAIN. Squinch Jul 2013 #105

It's not the sex, it's the stupidity FarCenter Jul 2013 #17

By your standard we should have re-elected bush the elder. last1standing Jul 2013 #24

If Gennifer Flowers had pictures of Clinton's private parts, FarCenter Jul 2013 #38

Are you saying you would have voted for bush if you had proof of Clinton's affair? last1standing Jul 2013 #41

Possibly -- George H W Bush was a far better president than his idiot son FarCenter Jul 2013 #76

Please tell me that was a bad joke. last1standing Jul 2013 #77

I've almost always voted for the Democrat running for president FarCenter Jul 2013 #90

You do realize that H.W. Bush invaded Iraq in 1990, right? last1standing Jul 2013 #91

The invasion of Iraq was limited and after destroying Iraqi forces, the coalition withdrew FarCenter Jul 2013 #96

I'm glad you clarified as you first stated that H.W. Bush never invaded Iraq. last1standing Jul 2013 #97

Is the standard different nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #18

Those examples aren't consensual. last1standing Jul 2013 #23

I know, but it is also called a sex scandal nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #26

lol! I hope I passed the test. last1standing Jul 2013 #28

Serious, I was nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #29

I know you are trying to make a point about hypocrisy but I personally would not vote for someone kelly1mm Jul 2013 #25

What if the couple has agreed to open things up? last1standing Jul 2013 #31

I posed that idea at my house tonight... Agschmid Jul 2013 #40

At least you could discuss it. last1standing Jul 2013 #47

Well, isn't that essentially what JFK had? Jackie stated closeupready Jul 2013 #66

Hmmmm..... Good point on the 'open relationship' - I would be OK with voting kelly1mm Jul 2013 #42

I'm just saying that there are as many different rules to relationships as there are relationships. last1standing Jul 2013 #44

YES. Weiner and his wife could well have had an open relationship. Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #46

He needs a better assistant then... Agschmid Jul 2013 #50

Then they should say so. What the fuck keeps them from just saying so? Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #56

It's their business if they want the closet, not ours. last1standing Jul 2013 #57

Sorry but the closet is harmful to others, to lie to our faces is to lie to our faces Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #62

I'm not saying they are in an open relationship. I have no idea. last1standing Jul 2013 #63

Try to follow. If they did have such a relationship and did not wish to say so they Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #64

I don't disagree that they could have answered that way. last1standing Jul 2013 #65

That would narrow the field to even more socially inept and none-too-bright sorts. PDJane Jul 2013 #27

So you are saying, everyone must marry their childhood sweetheart, or not be electable? DrewFlorida Jul 2013 #30

It sounds pretty silly when you put it that way. last1standing Jul 2013 #32

What about elected officials that offers jobs to those they are sleeping or sexting with? nt ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #33

If he was an elected official offering a job in return for sex he should be charged with a crime. last1standing Jul 2013 #37

Don't forget he accused Breitbart of a criminal act while he was trying to deflect attention. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #59

Then he would have lost a civil lawsuit. last1standing Jul 2013 #61

What about promising jobs and condos to mistresses? LittleBlue Jul 2013 #34

Did it involve government or campaign money? last1standing Jul 2013 #35

Nobody knows LittleBlue Jul 2013 #49

Then we're talking about a very weak promise. last1standing Jul 2013 #52

Amen! And especially no one with a history of self-abuse Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #43

Then I'll never be able to run for office. last1standing Jul 2013 #45

self del Skittles Jul 2013 #48

The orig. version was much better... Agschmid Jul 2013 #54

Weiner is a disgusting narcissistic CREEP Skittles Jul 2013 #100

I said as much on another string, just different choice of words 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #53

Shit, we need to have a lot of special elections. nt BootinUp Jul 2013 #55

Only eunichs need apply. last1standing Jul 2013 #58

It's not about adultery. It's about discretion. GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #69

He did keep his private life private. The media didn't. last1standing Jul 2013 #70

He didn't. He sexted to a 22 year old girl. 2 vulnerabilities there: sexting and her age. GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #71

My mother and father wouldn't have been allowed to date based on your rule. last1standing Jul 2013 #72

Your mother and father weren't holding political office, is my guess, and they were single, yes? GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #73

You guess quite a bit there. last1standing Jul 2013 #74

No, it's about discretion. Assuming your parents were single and not holding elected office GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #78

That makes part of the point I'm talking about. last1standing Jul 2013 #80

Knowing that the press drive rating with sex scandals should have made Weiner MORE discreet not less GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #83

Right. Let's elect even more sordid politicians like Spitzer and Weiner who resign mid-term. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #79

Spitzer resigned for breaking a law he signed into existence. last1standing Jul 2013 #81

Weiner is a LIAR. L-I-A-R. After getting caught indisputably LYING, he resigned. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #86

I'm sorry if this discussion has upset you. last1standing Jul 2013 #87

For real? ROFL. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #109

yeah, that's what it's about Skittles Jul 2013 #82

Yes, that's what it's about. last1standing Jul 2013 #84

and yes, you'll be trashed too if you get caught Skittles Jul 2013 #85

That does seem to be the standard. last1standing Jul 2013 #88

Unless that person is a Christian Republican who has talked to Jesus about it. Then it's all okay. n Hekate Jul 2013 #89

Actually I agree that unless someone runs on a platform including something they are caught doing, ejpoeta Jul 2013 #103

if a guy wants Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #93

-1 Totally and utterly irrevelant. Just Saying nt Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2013 #94

Of course you're "just saying." Just saying is convenient... last1standing Jul 2013 #95

Na ! "Just Sayin" is a way to appear less antagonistic. I am left Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2013 #98

That would probably eliminate over 90% of our elected officials throughout history. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #99

Sending pictures of your erect penis to strangers Chemisse Jul 2013 #101

Yeah, I'm with you. It's just creepy, and I'm no prude. What to think about a guy Nay Jul 2013 #107

I s'pose many people are under the belief that integrity may be compartmentalized. LanternWaste Jul 2013 #108