Sen. Ron Wyden On NSA Spying: It's As Bad As Snowden Says

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15. So the Democratic senator from Oregon is now Snowdon worshiping Grennwaldite, and should be ignored?

What will it take for you to stop your crusade against reality. The surveillance/data­mining being perpetrated by the government currently is egregious, illegal, and VERY dangerous, why do you spend so much time defending it? You convince only yourself BTW.

from the article;
"At this point, a little bit of history might be helpful. I joined the Senate Intelligence Committee in January 2001, just before 9/11. Like most senators I voted for the original Patriot Act, in part because I was reassured that it had an expiration date that would force Congress to come back and consider these authorities more carefully when the immediate crisis had passed. As time went on, from my view on the Intelligence Committee there were developments that seemed farther and farther removed from the ideals of our founding fathers.

This started not long after 9/11, with a Pentagon program called Total Information Awareness, which was essentially an effort to develop an ultra­ large-­scale domestic data­mining system. Troubled by this effort, and its not-exactly-modest logo of an all­-seeing eye on the universe, I worked with a number of senators to shut it down."

from you;
"I'm sick of people warning us. They should put up or shut up." yeah ok,. you make such great intelligible points.

the article continues;
"Unfortunately, this was hardly the last domestic surveillance overreach. In fact, the NSA’s infamous warrantless wiretapping program was already up and running at that point, though I, and most members of the Intelligence Committee didn’t learn about it until a few years later. This was part of a pattern of withholding information from Congress that persisted throughout the Bush administration ­ I joined the Intelligence Committee in 2001, but I learned about the warrantless wiretapping program when you read about it in the New York Times in late 2005."

The original post is a mere snippet, read the REST of the article!!!