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NoOneMan

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19. Most people don't know enough about metadata or this program to have informed opinions

Reply to AllINeedIsCoffee (Original post)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 04:15 PM

Jul 2013

If the government secretly collected DNA, urine and fingerprints from every human being, I'd would imagine that would both be unconstitutional and a gross violation of our rights.

Collecting our metadata signature is worse. DNA, urine and fingerprints won't reveal your favorite dessert, your political leanings, the books you read, your personality, your tendencies, your drug habits, your likelihood to commit acts deemed unfavorable by the state.

Our metadata fingerprints are reflections of who we really our. They are digital copies of our brains and how they manifest in the real world. The potential of what they can do with them is astounding. The potential danger of this data being leaked is a threat in itself. Democratic leaders are wrong on this.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 OP

Only conservative leaning support the spying RobertEarl Jul 2013 #1

Take it up with PEW and Politico and stop shooting the messenger. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #3

Irony! neverforget Jul 2013 #74

Their agenda is obvious. morningfog Jul 2013 #4

They try to hide it RobertEarl Jul 2013 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #6

I saved the response before the delete: morningfog Jul 2013 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #9

Ha. You're lying. morningfog Jul 2013 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #22

No. Morningfog has it right RobertEarl Jul 2013 #51

He just lost any and all credibility had ever had. morningfog Jul 2013 #52

I'd say so RobertEarl Jul 2013 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #56

Heh. zappaman Jul 2013 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #57

No. I am the only person who uses this username and this is the only username I have. morningfog Jul 2013 #73

Here is the screen shot: morningfog Jul 2013 #82

why are you doing this? It is wrong. Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #26

You know you posted it. I have the screenshot. morningfog Jul 2013 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #38

I am not that tech savvy. I'm impressed at your deniial. morningfog Jul 2013 #40

How would I have known you are an unemployed accountant student? morningfog Jul 2013 #53

I am not taking a side on this but you can always ask skinner to verify what you said. I assume he hrmjustin Jul 2013 #63

Shall I post the jury results for RobertEarl's disruptive post which unfortunately remains? KittyWampus Jul 2013 #12

^^^^^THIS POST SHOULD BE DELETED^^^^^^ Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #28

Gee I don't think morningfog cares what you think Pretzel. HangOnKids Jul 2013 #33

more to the world at large here on DU happening to stumble across this thread Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #35

Wait, What Part Of A Jury Let The Post Stand Are You Missing? HangOnKids Jul 2013 #37

none. I am expressing my opinion. I'm not going to whine to the administrators or anything Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #42

Why should I delete? morningfog Jul 2013 #81

Tell us RobertEarl why are you disrupting DU? That's exactly what you are doing. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #10

He has...issues. zappaman Jul 2013 #48

Oh, my. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #55

So he posts under 2 accounts- one attacks Obama & the other doesn't. LOL! KittyWampus Jul 2013 #71

Pretty much! zappaman Jul 2013 #72

Yes it is. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #31

Only disruptors attack DU'ers as you just did. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #8

And a jury left it. 3-3 vote. Apparently, his attacks do not have full support of the community. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #13

Well... zappaman Jul 2013 #50

Who, me? What, huh? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #14

what spying? snooper2 Jul 2013 #11

Not true. Many Progressives support it jazzimov Jul 2013 #43

I approve of this message. I have nothing to hide and no primal fears. nt bluestate10 Jul 2013 #2

So you walk around nude then? nt Pholus Jul 2013 #15

Put a webcam on your shitter stall NoOneMan Jul 2013 #23

is this sarcasm? Skittles Jul 2013 #79

So...50% of the people are idiots then. Apophis Jul 2013 #16

"70 percent of those surveyed said they thought the government uses this data for purposes other ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #18

They probably also are assuming its being used for the drug war NoOneMan Jul 2013 #27

If I discover it's being used for the Drug War, I'd end all support tomorrow. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #29

Well, lets examine how the anti-terrorism Patriot Act was used.... NoOneMan Jul 2013 #32

Logic and history should strongly indicate to you that it is being used for the so called Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #46

True that.... ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #30

Most people don't know enough about metadata or this program to have informed opinions NoOneMan Jul 2013 #19

What surprises me is that 50% approve - while 63% are misinformed and think that karynnj Jul 2013 #20

Something does HAVE to happen. It is becoming too much of a distraction. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #21

Obama is failing, or flailing RobertEarl Jul 2013 #24

"Have they got something on him?" NoOneMan Jul 2013 #25

Kary, you always seem to have the most reasonable answers. This is just the latest boogeyman, in a Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #36

Thanks - and your responses are always very good, thoughtful and interesting karynnj Jul 2013 #44

"27 percent said they thought the government had listened to their calls or read their emails, ..." Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #39

The tide is turning thanks to Snowden and Greenwald. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #41

You are completely deluded. Nothing will come of their attempt to bring down the Government. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #59

If Greenwald is as unpopular as Comrade Snowie, you're exactly right. "Not a damn thing". Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #62

So the vast majority think it is being improperly used while the 'approve or don't Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #45

The 70% do not say "abused", but say they think it is used for things not terrorism related karynnj Jul 2013 #69

What do you expect from a nation that ranks 17th in education and 19th in IQ? whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #47

I am the 44 bigwillq Jul 2013 #49

Basically we have an easily propagandized populace... kentuck Jul 2013 #60

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #61

+1, I agree uppityperson Jul 2013 #66

Me, too!!! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2013 #68

And is your inbox empty yet? uppityperson Jul 2013 #70

Not hardly, and my "My Posts" button still keeps lighting up... Rhiannon12866 Jul 2013 #75

I always want to tell people staying or starting that if they reply, put something good in the uppityperson Jul 2013 #76

It was really rough when I got cut off in the middle of a discussion. *sigh* Rhiannon12866 Jul 2013 #77

! uppityperson Jul 2013 #78

I had just posted a thread... Rhiannon12866 Jul 2013 #80

bhahahah! that's always the line true believers go to when public opinion doesn't support Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #67

I find that most people I speak with customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #64

Probably depends on the poll damnedifIknow Jul 2013 #65