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In reply to the discussion: ERIC HOLDER TO RUSSIA: We Will Not Torture Or Seek The Death Penalty For Edward Snowden [View all]HardTimes99
(2,049 posts)189. If torture is illegal in the U.S., then why are Bush and Cheney walking
around free men?
Holder is the laughingstock of the civilized world.
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ERIC HOLDER TO RUSSIA: We Will Not Torture Or Seek The Death Penalty For Edward Snowden [View all]
ProSense
Jul 2013
OP
It is what I'd expect in a military brig as opposed to the civilian system Snowden will face. nt
arely staircase
Jul 2013
#5
I haven't seen any evidence his treatment was unusual given his circumstances. nt
arely staircase
Jul 2013
#8
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/12/bradley-manning-cruel-inhuman-treatment-un
think
Jul 2013
#32
I have read all of that before. Calling Manning's treatment torture is an insult to
arely staircase
Jul 2013
#44
it is the info I'm using to call bullshit on the Manning was trotured meme nt
arely staircase
Jul 2013
#55
"Cruel and inhuman" So you are fine with cruel & inhuman treatment. Just not torture.....
think
Jul 2013
#58
no. i don't agree with your premise - that he was subjected to anything cruel or inhumane.
arely staircase
Jul 2013
#60
My premise? It is the UN special rapporteur on torture that is making the statement!
think
Jul 2013
#63
If you disagree that 11 months of solitary without a trial isn't cruel and inhuman
think
Jul 2013
#67
Who said torture where? And No I still think his treatment was CRUEL & INHUMAN!!!!!!
think
Jul 2013
#73
he wote the letter because Snowden is asking for asylum and specifically saying he will be tortured
arely staircase
Jul 2013
#120
Manning's torture was largely brought on by extended periods of solitary confinement
NuclearDem
Jul 2013
#14
His "solitary confinement" was one in which he could speak to other prisoners
arely staircase
Jul 2013
#61
So your agreeing torture was ok for Manning. As for Civilian...Jose Padilla, yeah no torture there
Katashi_itto
Jul 2013
#93
Hyperventlating about a non-analogous case is something that Rush Limbaugh does
BumRushDaShow
Jul 2013
#75
Yeah fuck Manning that little traitor, now back to dreaming about how exceptional USA is!
bobduca
Jul 2013
#23
If someone had shown me text of some of the arguments here, fifteen years ago...
woo me with science
Jul 2013
#145
We don't torture! Well, except for the goumet meals being served by tube to prisoners in Guantanamo
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2013
#11
I agree with that. But if that isn't happening I wouldn't let anyone starve to death. nt
arely staircase
Jul 2013
#36
Force feeding, especially when done brutally and exceptionally harmfully, is torture.
NuclearDem
Jul 2013
#34
It is always kinder for the cat to keep his captured victim alive as long as possible
Dragonfli
Jul 2013
#50
It's sad that the US has tortured enough times that our AG has to claim publicly
cui bono
Jul 2013
#51
Right, and St Snowedem, the Martyr, and Greenwald, the nasty villain, are putting it
Cha
Jul 2013
#172
If you think watergate is worse than this spying, no one should ever listen to you.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jul 2013
#160
If you think what you just said makes sense, then "no one should ever listen to you"
ProSense
Jul 2013
#162
So how is dystopian mass surveillance by a completely rogue, unaccountable branch of government
NuclearDem
Jul 2013
#165
He should come back to the US and make his case. Public opinion is shifting against him.
JaneyVee
Jul 2013
#41
"The US government does torture and assassinate. And it spies on all of its citizens. "
chimpymustgo
Jul 2013
#87
So Obama's complete inaction to stop the force feeding of prisoners at Gitmo?
NuclearDem
Jul 2013
#132
Torture is unlawful in US? Go tell that to prisoners who spent decades in solitary. Never even mind
idwiyo
Jul 2013
#108
Solitary confinement as practiced in US is torture. Any admin that allows it, allows torture.
idwiyo
Jul 2013
#124
Obama's is just the latest one of the admins that allowed it to continiue. Every single one of them
idwiyo
Jul 2013
#130
"Previous administrations may have been guilty of supporting torture that way...
ProSense
Jul 2013
#134
Yes, I'm saying that the lack of supporting evidence does partially absolve the previous ones
NuclearDem
Jul 2013
#136
Regardless of what you want to believe, solitary confinement as currently practiced in US is torture
idwiyo
Jul 2013
#174
Less than 14 days, daylight, free access to books, education, exercise, lawyer, NHS or equivalent,
idwiyo
Jul 2013
#179
Yeah, just like he claimed he would protect whistleblowers when he was campaigning.
forestpath
Jul 2013
#129
In a related story, Holder also issued a guarantee to Charlie Brown that Lucy would not pull the
Karmadillo
Jul 2013
#149
I'm thinking he never had a real relationship with his parents nor his girlfriend.
randome
Jul 2013
#169
Something 'odd' about you I think... for attempting to analyse Snowden's head without a bit
Purveyor
Jul 2013
#177