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59. Ah, not points - but balance

Sat Aug 3, 2013, 02:08 AM

Aug 2013

Guns can be used in both good and bad ways.

We have laws to punish those who use them in bad ways.

And we have folks who want to punish everyone with a gun when the very few use them in such a way.

So when someone doesn't (which happens about 50 million times a day, literally) and someone posts about it the idea is simply to highlight the basic fact that the majority of gun owners are not crazy folks out to shoot people.

There are some who want to paint the many based on the actions of the few - and for some reason those very people get upset when something is posted that does not adhere to their bias.

As I have said before, it all reminds me of how the RW likes to use the actions of a few who choose to be Muslim and blame the many and spread fear (and hate).

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Resident shoots burglar during home invasion [View all] The Straight Story Aug 2013 OP

Fucking home invasions. They are frightening. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #1

We have had those here in my hood The Straight Story Aug 2013 #3

The abandoned homes in my area are also attracting criminals. When they are no longer AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #43

In the news here a lot lately. It seemed like they became rare and are coming back. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #14

Good for him donco Aug 2013 #2

Still not worth it. kcr Aug 2013 #4

What's not worth it? tumtum Aug 2013 #5

Yep. Sit passively by knowing kcr Aug 2013 #6

So you don't trust yourself? The Straight Story Aug 2013 #8

I don't think that getting rid of guns is the answer kcr Aug 2013 #12

Your choice, tumtum Aug 2013 #9

I'm a sheep and my kids are alive. kcr Aug 2013 #11

Umm... the odds are pretty good that tum's kids are also alive and kicking... Pelican Aug 2013 #81

Missing the point. n/t kcr Aug 2013 #83

What was it then? Pelican Aug 2013 #90

I have seen a lot of these stories but... NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #7

It's all about assessing risk kcr Aug 2013 #10

The risk of being killed by a terrorist NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #13

What measures are taken to prevent lightening? kcr Aug 2013 #15

Will ask you the same thing I have been asking others and no one answers The Straight Story Aug 2013 #20

Prevent what things? n/t kcr Aug 2013 #21

crimes involving guns (nt) The Straight Story Aug 2013 #23

The biggest thing that would help kcr Aug 2013 #27

Ok, well thanks for actually answering when so many didn't :) The Straight Story Aug 2013 #31

Yay for the people who don't use guns in bad ways kcr Aug 2013 #33

Ok, explain to me what you think 'gun culture' means The Straight Story Aug 2013 #36

I grew up in a hunting family. kcr Aug 2013 #48

OK... The Straight Story Aug 2013 #52

I personally don't want to buy any because like I said, I have a family kcr Aug 2013 #57

Ok, cool - we can agree The Straight Story Aug 2013 #63

The problem is, the crazy gun humping jackholes are so loud kcr Aug 2013 #65

Give me an example of a common sense gun law that would prevent The Straight Story Aug 2013 #69

Oh. I see. kcr Aug 2013 #74

Talking about preventing terrorism, not lightning. NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #26

I know it's a kneejerk thought to think that anyone who says boo about guns kcr Aug 2013 #37

I understand, but... NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #45

I'm not putting forth a solution? kcr Aug 2013 #49

but who buys a handgun NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #58

But that smoke detector isn't going to accidentally kill you. kcr Aug 2013 #62

How about this NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #66

I know. My neighbor's kid was shot dead right in front of my house. kcr Aug 2013 #71

So your problem isnot with guns NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #73

That's pretty much it kcr Aug 2013 #75

the NRA wants everyone armed and paranoid Skittles Aug 2013 #87

... beevul Aug 2013 #34

That doesn't prevent lightening kcr Aug 2013 #40

Touche beevul Aug 2013 #50

Ask the people who's homes were invaded. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #16

Still doesn't change the fact the odds of it happening are slim. kcr Aug 2013 #17

Increase in home invasions where I live so risk higher Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #22

They were increasing where I lived, also kcr Aug 2013 #25

If people are properly trained and comfortable using them NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #29

So, you never have guests over? kcr Aug 2013 #32

Statistics are on my side here NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #35

Less likely. But still more likely than a home invasion. kcr Aug 2013 #46

I would love to hear an idea NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #51

I'd start with putting a muzzle on the NRA kcr Aug 2013 #55

I agree on that point NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #61

It seems that no real solutions are ever offered by gun controllers. In contrast, here's five: AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #70

Thank you NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #72

IMO, it is counter-productive to automatically bar those who seek help for AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #77

Very understandable NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #80

The problem is the powerful NRA lobby coupled with our political system kcr Aug 2013 #76

The NRA did not become a powerful lobby until the over-reach of the AWB. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #79

Oh, of course, the don't fight you'll lose argument. kcr Aug 2013 #82

"no real solutions offered." Wanna bet? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #84

That is awesome NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #85

Yep and it can be any dog. Don't laugh, but my chihuahua is actually quite effective. kcr Aug 2013 #86

Hey chihuahuas can be really mean :) NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #89

If more children die from auto accidents, something should be done about all those cars. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #44

Huh. kcr Aug 2013 #78

What's this guy doing with a gun? He has priors. rdharma Aug 2013 #18

He has "charges". Unless there are convictions then he has a right to be armed. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #19

Yeah, I am not shocked either :) (nt) The Straight Story Aug 2013 #24

The keyword is "record" rdharma Aug 2013 #30

One can have a record of arrests without convictions. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #38

Prior "criminal record" NOT "arrest record" rdharma Aug 2013 #53

They identified the dead home invader dude. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #60

As bad at it may smell NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #42

Point goes to the pro-gun side ONLY IF Loudly Aug 2013 #28

We go by points now? (nt) The Straight Story Aug 2013 #41

Sure do, why else post the story? Loudly Aug 2013 #56

Ah, not points - but balance The Straight Story Aug 2013 #59

"Laws to punish those who use them in bad ways." Loudly Aug 2013 #64

Well The Straight Story Aug 2013 #67

Drugs where probably a motive for "invasion" nt rdharma Aug 2013 #39

Interesting theory, would you like to explain it? (nt) The Straight Story Aug 2013 #47

The author of the headline is wrong. The criminals who kicked in the door were home invaders, not AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #54

No. The newspaper is correct...burglary. rdharma Aug 2013 #68

texas has Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #91

one less predator Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #88

Locking. Local gun crime stories aren't allowed in GD... Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #92