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MjolnirTime

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Sat Aug 3, 2013, 11:15 AM Aug 2013

Russia: Bastion of Liberty or Human Oppressor?? [View all]

It can't be both.

How can a place be so backwards and horrific that they actually make laws against not just homosexuality, but they criminalize the very act of saying a word in favor of homosexuality??

How can this place at the same time be cheered on and glorified as some haven of Liberty for the single act of sheltering Edward Snowden??

Do the Russian efforts to protect Snowden absolve them of all other guilt?

I have seen supporters of Snowden cheering Putin on. How can they isolate their opinions from everything else Putin has done and is doing?

Based on all the other badness Russia is involved in, how can someone ignore the very real possibility that their intentions with Snowden are nowhere near righteous? They are not interested in his health or his Liberty. They are interested in what he knows about US Intelligence. They are interested in how they can use Snowden to damage the US politically.

How can anyone willingly wear the blinders necessary for seeing Russia as an advocate for Human Freedoms??


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It's neither, but so is the USA. Cooley Hurd Aug 2013 #1
What freedoms? you make us sound like we live in a country like the Old communist regines of the demosincebirth Aug 2013 #17
We'd never have a law like that, because of the First Amendment treestar Aug 2013 #25
I'm glad that Russia is letting Snowden stay there, LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #2
genocide? they are killing gay people in order to exterminate them? link? HiPointDem Aug 2013 #9
The link is to the Geneva Convention's definition LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #13
i asked for a link to accounts of the ussr exterminating gay people. genocide is defined in your HiPointDem Aug 2013 #14
Putin has made it clear that anyone suspected of being gay LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #15
link for your claims, please? HiPointDem Aug 2013 #16
here are a few links: Raine1967 Aug 2013 #18
those don't support your claim of genocide. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #30
I'd go with 4 of 5. Raine1967 Aug 2013 #19
Neither. nt LWolf Aug 2013 #3
The real question is what are we? dawg Aug 2013 #4
We have forced him to stay there AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #5
He chose to go there treestar Aug 2013 #21
He hasn't had much choice in the matter AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #27
We don't have much proof there were any "threats." treestar Aug 2013 #28
Well... AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #29
Don't bother arguing with treestar MattSh Aug 2013 #32
Putin has performed a noble service for a patriot/hero like Snowden quinnox Aug 2013 #6
Do we really know? Blue_In_AK Aug 2013 #7
Thanks for that Blue! MattSh Aug 2013 #34
And thank you for that perspective, MattSh. Blue_In_AK Aug 2013 #36
Russia is a beautiful place Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #8
Slightly worse than the US. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #10
One of the most oppressive civilized nations in the world. eom millennialmax Aug 2013 #11
The worst of all developed Nations. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #12
The anti-gay think is particularly disappointing treestar Aug 2013 #20
Oy. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2013 #22
Push polls are for chumps... 99Forever Aug 2013 #23
Will Snowden have more, or less, freedom in Russia or a cell in The Land of the Free? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #24
I just find it hilarious how angry all of this is making those who want to see Snowden arrested. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #26
Neither, and this false dichotomy is a tragic sign of the prevailing rampant hysteria on the subject Alamuti Lotus Aug 2013 #31
Sounds like a poll written by a 1st grader. Bonobo Aug 2013 #33
hey, so does mine! cali Aug 2013 #35
I know my job is done when the petty patrol arrives. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #37
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