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bhikkhu

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28. Selling kids on the coolness of nicotine addiction

Sun Aug 4, 2013, 02:10 PM

Aug 2013

...if it just gives you disabling heart disease this way, instead of the longer list of problems that smoking the stuff gives you, then its just fine to go big with the marketing?

I'm sure big tobacco learned their lesson the last time around, so they wouldn't do anything underhanded like market it to young people, or try to convince people it was harmless, and more matter of individual choice and style, things like that.

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Old tobacco playbook gets new use by e-cigarettes [View all] Arctic Dave Aug 2013 OP

imo ecigs are specifically marketed to smokers, elehhhhna Aug 2013 #1

The important thing is that someone feels the correct amount of shame... Pelican Aug 2013 #2

your statement is erroneous. they're heavily marketed to anyone. I get to watch these drug msongs Aug 2013 #21

I plan to get down to zero nicotine with my e-cig use. Then I snappyturtle Aug 2013 #32

I know a lot of people who have tapered off the nicotine Warpy Aug 2013 #56

let me ask you Tyhanna Aug 2013 #71

I was in a bar a few weeks ago and and a couple of people were 'cupping' those things. onehandle Aug 2013 #3

Antifreeze? Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2013 #4

I also checked out the ingredients and agree with you. Besides Raven Aug 2013 #5

'pure vapor' onehandle Aug 2013 #8

They do NOT have antifreeze ohheckyeah Aug 2013 #15

Very possible whoever made the juice he was using picked the wrong glycol jmowreader Aug 2013 #74

I'm not a young person, but thanks. ohheckyeah Aug 2013 #89

Sounds like Ashba got some bad juice. nt snappyturtle Aug 2013 #19

More like Tyhanna Aug 2013 #54

There are just some people for whom happiness is impossible unless they are Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #11

Isn't that the truth! I know of no person who is totally free from harmful snappyturtle Aug 2013 #23

Life is a terminal condition, so you may as well enjoy as much as you can for as long as you can. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #26

I agree! I like your description: "....latest strain of nosey, busy-body, snappyturtle Aug 2013 #29

Probably hid them because people think they're "antifreeze." DirkGently Aug 2013 #7

I'm all for them as a way for smokers to wean themselves off bhikkhu Aug 2013 #9

Clearly it's not something that should be marketed to kids. DirkGently Aug 2013 #12

If they were talking about "vaping" they were not talking about e-cigarettes notadmblnd Aug 2013 #14

Actually, that's exactly the term used for e-cig use (and that other thing). DirkGently Aug 2013 #16

Okie dokie notadmblnd Aug 2013 #17

Seriously, though, that is what it's called. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #50

More lies Alan Selk Aug 2013 #97

So buy American Revanchist Aug 2013 #27

I go to a place that is set up like a bar and they mix fresh to order. snappyturtle Aug 2013 #30

I am glad they are still banned in non-smoking areas. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #46

Actually, the primary ingredients are water and glycerin. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #49

Not so... Tyhanna Aug 2013 #52

Antifreeze!? Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #65

E-Cigs Are Destroying The Domestic Cigarette Industry... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #6

Who do you think owns the e-cig companies? Mostly big tobacco. bhikkhu Aug 2013 #10

One company. Selling a product that isn't cigarettes? DirkGently Aug 2013 #13

Selling kids on the coolness of nicotine addiction bhikkhu Aug 2013 #28

1) It's not mostly "big tobacco" as you said. 2) Marketing to kids is rather DirkGently Aug 2013 #34

What would a rational view of the tobacco industry be? bhikkhu Aug 2013 #37

It's not "the tobacco industry." And it's not "the same crap." DirkGently Aug 2013 #39

Blu is Lorillard, Vuse is RJ Reynolds, Markten is Phillip Morris bhikkhu Aug 2013 #42

Bullshit. beevul Aug 2013 #48

That's a compelling account, and I hope you are right bhikkhu Aug 2013 #55

Heres the thing. beevul Aug 2013 #60

Well done! Egnever Aug 2013 #85

Thanks. beevul Aug 2013 #91

nicotine does not Tyhanna Aug 2013 #61

This is why I keep going on with this stuff bhikkhu Aug 2013 #83

Could it be possible that study Tyhanna Aug 2013 #84

The NCBI study definitely contradicts the study I linked to earlier bhikkhu Aug 2013 #88

Factually untrue. beevul Aug 2013 #43

The tobacco companys only.. Tyhanna Aug 2013 #59

Interesting. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #67

Some $$ Figures... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #72

So switching to E-cigs was almost like receiving a bonus for you. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #76

there are those in the .... Tyhanna Aug 2013 #78

drug addicts using these spread their poison into the air for everyone else to breathe -just like msongs Aug 2013 #18

E-Cigs don't have "second hand" anything. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2013 #22

What about the ones without nicotine? Why are they evil? tritsofme Aug 2013 #24

If they don't have nicotine, that's fine bhikkhu Aug 2013 #38

hum addictions are a funny thing... Tyhanna Aug 2013 #64

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #25

I filled one up with crack ...works just great ...now no one knows I am smoking crack in public. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #31

That wouldn't technically be possible... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2013 #40

I didn't think I needed the sarcasm tag. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #62

Lol... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2013 #92

You were carrying concealed. Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #94

Your post should read like this: Those people are doing something they enjoy RB TexLa Aug 2013 #33

OMG! Every breath you take every day was previously exhaled by someone/thing else, you're doomed! nt Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #35

sorry your wrong Tyhanna Aug 2013 #57

The amount of cast off nicotine from e-cigarettes is likely negligible. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #58

I don't smoke but I get your point. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #68

I can't wait until Marijuana is legalized. MicaelS Aug 2013 #96

They don't leave an odor. mick063 Aug 2013 #20

My boss (a non-smoker) Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2013 #41

Half true. beevul Aug 2013 #44

So folks confuse it with a strange new scent of body wash. mick063 Aug 2013 #51

Exactly. N/T beevul Aug 2013 #53

A lady I work with uses one and it has a slight smell Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #69

I will explain that smell mick063 Aug 2013 #73

Well I can see why hers smells. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #77

If you were Tyhanna Aug 2013 #79

Wave of the future. Great development. gulliver Aug 2013 #36

Jenny McCarthy looks like an idiot in those ads. Gross. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #45

hum would it be better.. Tyhanna Aug 2013 #66

People move away from these mass-marketed e-cigs quickly BlackHoleSon Aug 2013 #47

I buy all my e-cig stuff from a small one man shop in the aging part of downtown. mick063 Aug 2013 #75

DIY juice is lots of fun! Egnever Aug 2013 #86

been vaping for two years...my fav is Modernsmoke Sedona Aug 2013 #63

Congrats. beevul Aug 2013 #70

One of the coolest things about vaping Egnever Aug 2013 #87

Anyone who slams ecigs while drinking coffee is an idiotic hypocrite. Xithras Aug 2013 #80

What if they drink the e-cig and smoke the coffee? Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #81

Lol. Something for someone to try, I guess. Xithras Aug 2013 #82

How about Red Bull flavored e-cig juice? Revanchist Aug 2013 #95

To spread lies about something that is so beneficial is truly reprehensible. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #90

Want to ban smoking? Institute standard prohibition of tobacco... Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #93