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Peacetrain

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176. As a card carrying Democrat.. I would proudly vote for either one
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 08:26 PM
Aug 2013

We have many wonderful possibilities..the primaries will be interesting..they always are.. I would be hanged if I would cut off my nose to spite my face and say I would only vote for such and such.. That makes no sense. Just gets you boxed in.

We shouldn't forget, the Republicans are ready to dust off all the hedgehog Aug 2013 #1
The Mass. election got pretty nasty. Warren or any Dem nominee would be subjected to a barrage of Metric System Aug 2013 #40
The Republicans will dig up or make up dirt about whomever we run. winter is coming Aug 2013 #98
This is nothing new. making up dirt against a Democratic challener is something that they've always Cal33 Aug 2013 #143
I want the names bush and clinton to go away. This isn't a monarchy and I'm sick of them. roguevalley Aug 2013 #116
AMEN!! n/t choie Aug 2013 #127
Left On! Faux pas Aug 2013 #132
I agree that is m objection to HRC left is right Aug 2013 #151
Thank you. nt snappyturtle Aug 2013 #178
Oh, well THAT'S a *reason* for ya...the Republicans don't like her. You haters are a SCREAM LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #164
Warren gets all my support. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #2
This is not a hard choice for anyone who holds to traditional Democratic values. Scuba Aug 2013 #3
How is Warren going to accomplish anything real with a Republican House? treestar Aug 2013 #4
Of course 2014 is nearer, and winning the House in 2014 is a must, if Democrats will be Cal33 Aug 2013 #23
It doesn't matter if you would like the way she would "see to it" treestar Aug 2013 #125
I do realize the necessity of having the backing of the Congress for the president to get things Cal33 Aug 2013 #130
You are right. Maedhros Aug 2013 #60
She would not make 'grand bargains' AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #5
Sending Warren into that cesspool now would be crazy. grasswire Aug 2013 #6
Just doing her job now and for the next 3-1/2 years as senator might help to clean up the Cal33 Aug 2013 #52
She's One Of 100... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #154
Much of what you say is true. Well, I hope she will rev up something that Democrats are really Cal33 Aug 2013 #157
I'd vote for Warren madokie Aug 2013 #7
She would have my vote. immoderate Aug 2013 #17
and I'd bet almost anything that she won't run. c'mon, use some analytic skills here. cali Aug 2013 #8
...and here comes the "If you don't select her then you will have a repuke for POTUS". L0oniX Aug 2013 #13
Hey, you-- Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #80
I've been saying for 9 months now neither Clinton nor Biden will run davidpdx Aug 2013 #122
I hope Warren will. Cal33 Aug 2013 #123
I second your hope! n/t JimDandy Aug 2013 #144
And the Clinton name is associated with the IWR, NAFTA, closeupready Aug 2013 #9
The bottom line... gcomeau Aug 2013 #10
Because first-term Senators have no chance whatsoever of being elected President KamaAina Aug 2013 #31
And of course Rand Paul and Ted Cruz pscot Aug 2013 #35
Cruz was born in canada. alp227 Aug 2013 #47
Hallelujah.... think Aug 2013 #64
His mother is American born. djean111 Aug 2013 #104
REALLY? alp227 Aug 2013 #106
Of course there is a double standard, silly! djean111 Aug 2013 #108
If so, how come the GOP fruit-cakes were making such a stink about Obama? His Cal33 Aug 2013 #109
"natural born" is open to interpretation. djean111 Aug 2013 #110
How about all the Cal33 Aug 2013 #114
Not in the context of the Presidency - Obama's mom was born in Kansas - If what you said was true karynnj Aug 2013 #113
I like Elizabeth Warren, but she's no Barack Obama. Come on. Metric System Aug 2013 #41
That's why I like her! KamaAina Aug 2013 #42
That is right....nt Enthusiast Aug 2013 #119
I was not referring simply to... gcomeau Aug 2013 #48
You forget, she also worked a few years for Obama. She's had an Cal33 Aug 2013 #58
I feel quite certain that in two years' time, Warren will have made a good name for Cal33 Aug 2013 #38
I do as well... gcomeau Aug 2013 #49
Most Repubs. vote Republican, and most Dems. vote Democratic. She doesn't need Cal33 Aug 2013 #61
I will never vote for any Clinton! I have a feeling the over lords and fawners will select her. L0oniX Aug 2013 #11
Not even if it's a choice between a Clinton or a Republican? Cal33 Aug 2013 #30
That is not the case at present pscot Aug 2013 #37
Using the word "never"... gcomeau Aug 2013 #50
I hope it won't be the case in 2016, either. Cal33 Aug 2013 #63
If lefty Dems don't vote it will be the fault of who the DLC and centrists run in the primary. L0oniX Aug 2013 #134
A vote for Clinton is a vote for war IMO. L0oniX Aug 2013 #95
A primary reason, (pun intended), why the polarization of wealth increases daily, Zorra Aug 2013 #12
If we're using musical analogies Maedhros Aug 2013 #62
Why, what on earth do you mean? Zorra Aug 2013 #71
No person in this country deserves the office of President more than Sec. Clinton. millennialmax Aug 2013 #14
deserves? deserves? yikes. cali Aug 2013 #18
If it comes to a choice of Hillary or a Republican, I'd choose Hillary. Our democratic way of life Cal33 Aug 2013 #24
But there IS a primary before the general election. And OP and many of us haven't selected Hillary cascadiance Aug 2013 #84
Very well said! Raksha Aug 2013 #117
Oh, I've GOT to hear more of this. bvar22 Aug 2013 #26
If you need me to explain, it's probably not going to change your mind anyway. eom millennialmax Aug 2013 #29
Its that sense of royal "entitlement" that turns my stomach. bvar22 Aug 2013 #43
Graham is that you? 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #32
I don't understand what Lindsay Graham has to do with any of this. millennialmax Aug 2013 #33
80/20 RevStPatrick Aug 2013 #34
What if she doesn't run, Graham? Spirochete Aug 2013 #59
The presidency is not subject to any entitlement. What's more important is her stand on the issues, totodeinhere Aug 2013 #74
But Hillary might get the McCain vote! progressoid Aug 2013 #15
Has Elizabeth Warren indicated that she's even thinking MineralMan Aug 2013 #16
Not that I am aware of. But there's nothing wrong with hoping. :) Cal33 Aug 2013 #25
That's what I thought. It's too early, I think, MineralMan Aug 2013 #27
It doesn't stop her fan club from wishing and hoping. MADem Aug 2013 #161
I agree. She is doing a wonderful job in the Senate, and MineralMan Aug 2013 #163
I'm all in. wilsonbooks Aug 2013 #19
No more DLC, but the Democratic Establishment is still around, under a Cal33 Aug 2013 #28
Got my vote MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #20
I would enthusiastically vote leftynyc Aug 2013 #21
K&R. Clinton in 2016 would be Bush's fifth term. ENOUGH. forestpath Aug 2013 #22
Having a well-known name didn't help Hillary beat someone as well known rocktivity Aug 2013 #36
I'll take either one ... meegbear Aug 2013 #39
Can't say I blame you. :) Cal33 Aug 2013 #68
Can we PLEASE concentrate on the 2013 and 2014 elections right now????? DinahMoeHum Aug 2013 #44
What you say is very true. I'm just expressing my views. Cal33 Aug 2013 #69
I don't know Warren's views on civil liberties and war and executive power and border enforcement Vattel Aug 2013 #45
From what she is already doing, we can see that Warren is a Progressive. However, she Cal33 Aug 2013 #72
Many Democrats are waiting to see... Wait Wut Aug 2013 #46
Excellent way of looking at things. Cal33 Aug 2013 #73
Can anyone convince me Hillary won't be a corporate shill? FreeBC Aug 2013 #51
Seeing these as the same.... Crow73 Aug 2013 #57
I'll always vote for the lesser of two evils, because in that case, not to vote Cal33 Aug 2013 #77
The Clinton presidency was the last GlashFordan Aug 2013 #53
Thanks for propping up Newt. mick063 Aug 2013 #65
I'll give credit to bigdog GlashFordan Aug 2013 #89
Actually the gap between the 1% and everyone else accelerated during Clinton's totodeinhere Aug 2013 #76
Because of the export of jobs, Clinton's prosperity could only have been temporary. I'm Cal33 Aug 2013 #83
Why his and her biggest money backers ceonupe Aug 2013 #128
I don't know One Friend Howler Aug 2013 #54
Yes mick063 Aug 2013 #67
EXACTLY Mick063 Howler Aug 2013 #78
The only Clinton I want as President Maedhros Aug 2013 #55
+1 AtomicKitten Aug 2013 #97
I donate, pound the street, hit the phone bank, go to work for Warren. (or one very similar to her) mick063 Aug 2013 #56
haha... I would only vote for warren if she were the dem nom okieinpain Aug 2013 #66
tough call. warrprayer Aug 2013 #70
The GOP is so fucked up right now that I suspect that any credible Democrat, totodeinhere Aug 2013 #79
I prefer neither. LWolf Aug 2013 #75
That is a compromise I can live with mick063 Aug 2013 #85
That's right. LWolf Aug 2013 #92
If a liberal governor will be the next Democratic nominee for president, I'd vote for him/her. Cal33 Aug 2013 #88
That's what Diebold says. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #81
I suppose there will still be many electronic voting machines around come 2016. We Cal33 Aug 2013 #90
I agree that electronic voting machines will still be around. I disagree that we are either too lazy AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #93
But the politicians in power, who could make changes and don't, should be. Cal33 Aug 2013 #100
We need a Tough ol' Broad. I'll take Clinton any day over Warren. Her time will come demosincebirth Aug 2013 #82
Even if Warren should be fighting for the American people, and Clinton for the corporations? Cal33 Aug 2013 #91
If you say so. nt demosincebirth Aug 2013 #115
Warren looks good to me. Clinton is a No Sale. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #86
Elizabeth Warren Hula Popper Aug 2013 #87
I will not vote for Hillary. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #94
If I could be convinced Warren would win I'm all for it. DCBob Aug 2013 #96
Yes, she has been in office only 7 months and she is already tackling big problems like Cal33 Aug 2013 #99
Perhaps.. but she needs to make some noise and get in the news. DCBob Aug 2013 #101
the media is owned by the rich and they have already decided that Hillary will be the nominee. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #102
Funny RW talk radio says the media has selected Hillary also but for a different reason. DCBob Aug 2013 #103
I doubt that. The media is not interested in Warren going after bankers, but they are interested in liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #105
Yes, she should get some exposure and see how voters react. I also think this is Cal33 Aug 2013 #107
Come on, EVERYONE knows the person with the best name recognition 3 years away from hughee99 Aug 2013 #111
But this case is slightly different. Hillary' news-making years are over. Elizabeth's are Cal33 Aug 2013 #112
Being from MA, you don't have to tell me about Warren, I'm on board. hughee99 Aug 2013 #118
And for those in Massachusetts worried about losing another senator... cascadiance Aug 2013 #140
I agree with you 100%. There are many who are like Eliz. Warren around. All we have Cal33 Aug 2013 #148
I think definitely point out the problems with them passing the Telecomm Act... cascadiance Aug 2013 #149
Many thanks. Will do. Cal33 Aug 2013 #150
Didn't we hear all of this six years ago? mattclearing Aug 2013 #120
Elizabeth Warren would be my first choice! B Calm Aug 2013 #121
Is Warren even running? treestar Aug 2013 #124
Not that I'm aware of. But that doesn't matter. Remember when she was not Cal33 Aug 2013 #126
Clinton is just another neocon puppet Eddie Haskell Aug 2013 #129
I won't vote for Hillary. Want my vote? Run a non-corporatist. GoneFishin Aug 2013 #131
The problem with extortion is that the ransom never goes away and always goes up. mick063 Aug 2013 #135
What we can do is try to make sure a Progressive or Liberal wins in the Cal33 Aug 2013 #137
I will work hard in this endeavor mick063 Aug 2013 #139
Thanks for your intention to work hard to convince Eliz. Warren to run for the presidency. I Cal33 Aug 2013 #145
I appreciate the link. mick063 Aug 2013 #146
If name recognition and the 'familiar' Faux pas Aug 2013 #133
I support candidates in primaries who I think are electable. aikoaiko Aug 2013 #136
I would prefer Clinton to Warren... Sancho Aug 2013 #138
I think internationally, many countries might be really looking forward more to someone like Warren cascadiance Aug 2013 #141
Reply to Cascadiance's post #141 Cal33 Aug 2013 #142
And the opposite is also true. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #147
Elizabeth Warren is my senator and a damn good one. MADem Aug 2013 #152
Elizabeth Warren won over her Republican competitor for the position of Senator from Mass. mainly Cal33 Aug 2013 #155
EW was heavily funded because nationally, it was a disgrace to have Scott Brown as the junior MADem Aug 2013 #160
If trying to get students to pay 0.75% interest on their loans instead of 6.8% and breaking up Cal33 Aug 2013 #166
She was just on local FauxSnooze tv--she's 'not interested.' MADem Aug 2013 #173
Sorry for sounding like I was lecturing. I didn't realize I was doing it. Nope, I'm Cal33 Aug 2013 #174
Senators are supposed to spend time with their constituents. MADem Aug 2013 #175
To the GOP, the only president that could be worse than a black man... Atman Aug 2013 #153
There sure are a lot of PUMAs on DU. I for one can't wait for the mass exodus/banning. What goes Metric System Aug 2013 #156
I had to look up what PUMA stands for (Party Union My Ass). Hey, Democrats are like that. The Cal33 Aug 2013 #159
I don't see Elizabeth Warren criticizing that horrible corporatist Obama now. What makes you think Metric System Aug 2013 #158
You may think of Obama as a horrible corporatist. I think Obama is a middle-of-the-roader, who is Cal33 Aug 2013 #165
You may not know what Ms. Warren thinks but I agree with your assessment of the President. 1-Old-Man Aug 2013 #167
We need REAL change not more broken promises. nt. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #162
Think about Rand Paul. Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio and ask yourself: brooklynite Aug 2013 #168
You are right. When Obama did not appoint Elizabeth Warren to head the Consumer Financial Protectio Cal33 Aug 2013 #171
If one is content with the way things are voting for Clinton makes sense. If one wants real changes Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #169
I also think that if we were to have full Republican control of the Federal Government for Cal33 Aug 2013 #172
If Warren is our primary runner, then she has my full support. Rex Aug 2013 #170
As a card carrying Democrat.. I would proudly vote for either one Peacetrain Aug 2013 #176
"we'll be having more of the same as what we've been having from Obama..." gulliver Aug 2013 #177
I came to the conclusion that Obama was a middle-of-the-roader a long time ago, and also that Cal33 Aug 2013 #179
What you say about blockages from the GOP is very true. But, just think back a few Cal33 Aug 2013 #180
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