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DeSwiss

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63. Now let's see.....

Fri Aug 9, 2013, 01:07 AM

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Snowden "has damaged American international relations and compromised our national security" [View all] michigandem58 Aug 2013 OP

The drone attacks and American hubris have damaged the American reputation. PDJane Aug 2013 #1

+1. Let's go ask the people of Pakistan why they won't get vaccinated for Polio. Then we'll know who liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #12

BULLSHIT PLANEFIX Aug 2013 #48

bullpucky kardonb Aug 2013 #61

Comic brilliance HangOnKids Aug 2013 #66

A noun, a verb, and "911" BlueStreak Aug 2013 #101

we didn't even need this shit to prevent the first 9/11.. frylock Aug 2013 #95

Oh no!!! Anything but another 911!!! wtmusic Aug 2013 #116

This is what a Freedom Fighter Looks like. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #2

Thank you for that information sheshe2 treestar Aug 2013 #78

No, Snowden leaked info about US Govt actions, those actions damaged US reputation internationally peacebird Aug 2013 #3

Wrong. Snowden leaked information about US spying on other countries, pnwmom Aug 2013 #68

Oh yeah, ohheckyeah Aug 2013 #102

Of course the fact that we spy isn't shocking. But giving out details to the Chinese newspaper pnwmom Aug 2013 #105

Seriously? ohheckyeah Aug 2013 #106

He's in the same category as a lot of Congress marions ghost Aug 2013 #4

Well, at least he's consistent usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #5

Snowden is a thief, he "revealed" what was already in 2005, he is now charged Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #6

Many other's think he's a patriotic WHISTLEBLOWER usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #7

Far from the truth, had Snowden used the whistleblower channels in place for him to follow Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #10

Ah, you don't have all the truth usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #11

Here are the facts, he has been charged with espionage, the facts as they currently stand. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #13

Gov are notorious for false and trumped up charges, especially our own usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #14

He did not follow the protocol for a whistleblower therefore he is not a whistleblower, he stole Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #35

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #38

+1. The warmongers, neocons, and neolibs make me sick. Ed Suspicious Aug 2013 #54

Preach on, Bubba, you are showing your true side, Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #57

Anyone that disparages a great man like Rep. John Lewis is not a Dem, Liberal, or Progressive. millennialmax Aug 2013 #62

Try decaf. Or Jesus. Number23 Aug 2013 #58

It isn't easy, looking at the end result of your government's foreign policy, is it? ronnie624 Aug 2013 #65

Anyone that thinks that posting pics of dead children is a way to promote Number23 Aug 2013 #67

"too far gone"? ronnie624 Aug 2013 #93

If all we saw in the news was images of dead children every time a war was conducted anywhere Number23 Aug 2013 #100

Those who oppose abortion, ronnie624 Aug 2013 #107

The beliefs may be different. But the methods are damn near identical Number23 Aug 2013 #111

You have never bothered to explain ronnie624 Aug 2013 #112

I should not have to explain to any DECENT human being why posting pictures of dead children Number23 Aug 2013 #113

Right. ronnie624 Aug 2013 #114

+1 treestar Aug 2013 #83

We won't have to worry about his anger issues or propensity for posting pics of dead children Number23 Aug 2013 #115

Sometimes you come back from vacation treestar Aug 2013 #119

You know a lot of the world would consider you and I every bit as guilty BainsBane Aug 2013 #60

St snowden hacked, ran to Hong Kong and then leaked.. like a sneak thief in Cha Aug 2013 #70

That statement is just incredible, isn't it? treestar Aug 2013 #81

Hey, treestar.. Many human pretzels on board Cha Aug 2013 #99

He broke the law and he did not have to treestar Aug 2013 #80

Have you not read ohheckyeah Aug 2013 #103

Two big problems Recursion Aug 2013 #32

Only for the totalitarians usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #34

OK, so how about my more important point Recursion Aug 2013 #36

See Post #38 usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #39

I saw it, but I didn't see a point Recursion Aug 2013 #43

Follow your name usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #45

Re: Two Big Problems PLANEFIX Aug 2013 #40

Again, metadata has no 4th amendment protection Recursion Aug 2013 #42

And neither do you, now usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #44

Sure I do, so do you Recursion Aug 2013 #46

Well, that data can't be used in court until it's been properly laundered at least Fumesucker Aug 2013 #73

Right, that's the "clean re-investigation" thing, which should stop yesterday Recursion Aug 2013 #74

I don't believe for a moment that the abuses will stop unless people do serious jail time for it Fumesucker Aug 2013 #77

That logic certainly didn't work for drugs Recursion Aug 2013 #84

That sounds like an admission you don't think it's possible to fix the abuses then Fumesucker Aug 2013 #86

I think abuses can be nudged back, over time Recursion Aug 2013 #87

Metadata? A bit slow on the draw, aren't you. wtmusic Aug 2013 #117

+1 snappyturtle Aug 2013 #47

^^^ THIS ^^^ usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #49

Where are these "whistleblower channels"? wtmusic Aug 2013 #118

That "DU meme" was cooked up by Larouche attorney Bruce Fein ucrdem Aug 2013 #16

Oh my. Propaganda Central. Cha Aug 2013 #18

Exactly. ucrdem Aug 2013 #19

I first mentioned it on DU on Jun 16 usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #20

It seems the Hong Kong papers beat you to it ucrdem Aug 2013 #21

yeah, as i stated, and shows your post to be incorrect usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #23

Something tells me the Hong Kong papers had a little help. ucrdem Aug 2013 #24

see what i mean ;) usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #25

+1 Historic NY Aug 2013 #28

Larouchites are A--holes. Historic NY Aug 2013 #27

No one cares about Rand Paul. Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #59

Yep. Rand Paul was the dumb SOB we always poked fun at... DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #108

you guys have had a couple months now to prove that he's somebodies [sic] patsy.. frylock Aug 2013 #15

Getting tangled up in your talking points, I see. JackRiddler Aug 2013 #26

Do you know what corporate lacky means? Someone that bows down and kisses the feet of rhett o rick Aug 2013 #55

I see you got the memo. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #71

John Lewis also voted for Amash-Conyers against the surveillance state. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #8

I think Amash-Conyers was a pretty good amendment Recursion Aug 2013 #33

It appears my conclusions were incorrect. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #9

Yes, thank you, michigandem! And, no thanks to the Guardian yesterday for Cha Aug 2013 #17

So what would the radical troublemaker John Lewis of 50 years ago think of Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #22

Disgusting post. emulatorloo Aug 2013 #88

What??? Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #90

You wrote the slimy attack, you own it emulatorloo Aug 2013 #91

I'm perfectly aware of what I wrote. The mystery is how on earth you got from those words Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #92

Nice try at deflection. emulatorloo Aug 2013 #94

Just like the person that tells a wife her husband is having an affair Gman Aug 2013 #29

It wasn't the leaker, it was the secrets he leaked LittleBlue Aug 2013 #30

exactly. The world already has an opinion about us based on how we treat them and most of the liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #31

We are unifying the world mick063 Aug 2013 #110

Yet he was still engaging in non-violent civil disobedience. morningfog Aug 2013 #37

Yeah right libodem Aug 2013 #41

...and may have jeopardized human lives. Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #50

Yawn. nt snappyturtle Aug 2013 #51

If this is your ''complete opinion'' now...... DeSwiss Aug 2013 #52

It will be interesting to see if there was a video or a tape of the interview. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #53

Now let's see..... DeSwiss Aug 2013 #63

. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #64

Preach it, Rep. Lewis. You are a national treasure. eom millennialmax Aug 2013 #56

So the pro-Snowden crowd who crowed that Lewis would be 'under the bus' yesterday CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #69

Yes, today Lewis is a greedy coward and liar emulatorloo Aug 2013 #89

Here's more of John Lewis' quote from his website this morning.. Cha Aug 2013 #72

John Lewis' third paragraph was masterful Kolesar Aug 2013 #76

We damaged international relations when we started invading countries for no reason. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #75

our own actions are what damaged our international relations and compromised our national security. magical thyme Aug 2013 #79

Here is a question for all the Pro-Snowden folks here... DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #82

just because it's legal doesn't make it right.. frylock Aug 2013 #96

Really? Then what good are all them H-Bomb and Nuke Submarines and Bombers and Missiles good for? Octafish Aug 2013 #85

The NSA has damaged American international relations and compromised our national security. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #97

Yeah, it's the same thing with Manning... SomethingFishy Aug 2013 #98

Snowden didn't damage American relations-- the Obama administration did.... mike_c Aug 2013 #104

They keep having this problem understanding what THE PROBLEM IS, don't they? MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #109