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Summer Hathaway

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29. For the record

Sat Aug 10, 2013, 02:51 AM

Aug 2013

no one 'directed damnation' at Manning because he dumped all of his information at once. The criticism was directed at the fact that he 'dumped' hundreds of thousands of documents that he could not possibly have vetted before disclosing them. Ergo, he had no way of knowing what it was he was exposing - but did it anyway.

Greenwald, on the other hand, claims to have information that is 'vital' to the American citizenry, and the world at large - which he is anxious to impart, as soon as people shell out money for his upcoming book.

There is a difference -- see it now?

Good, I knew you could figure that one out.

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@ggreenwald: Would the WH prefer mass, indiscriminate, bulk, unvetted simultaneous disclosure? [View all] dkf Aug 2013 OP

This is asinine on its face, greenwald is a damn joke uponit7771 Aug 2013 #1

It's not about Greenwald!!! ProSense Aug 2013 #3

It's about our surveillance state, and a President still lying about it. Please read: chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #57

You do, of course, recall the chorus of damnation directed toward Manning Maedhros Aug 2013 #22

For the record Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #29

Ah, so you would prefer they carry on with their careful analysis before publishing usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #35

I'm sure GG's "careful analysis" Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #37

I'll take that as a yes usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #43

Well, obviously 'yes' Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #44

lol usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #49

Ya know ... Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #51

Sorry, but that's my normal reaction to smear campaigns usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #52

Sue you for what? Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #54

Vetting the information takes time. Maedhros Aug 2013 #45

GG has announced his new book not being available Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #48

Actually, Greenwald is getting the last laugh and will continue to get the last laugh. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #24

Please, Greenwald isn't laughing, he's scrambling. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #25

That definitely comes across as lol usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #36

And yet another Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #53

WRONG, people are laughing AT Greenwald ... he'll sell a book and Paulians will buy it along uponit7771 Aug 2013 #68

LOL Autumn Aug 2013 #2

Greenwald? Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #4

Spring of 2014, I think. morningfog Aug 2013 #7

Funny how he's trying to cash in on all this Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #8

Yet that does not change the NSA's programs. morningfog Aug 2013 #9

Changes the integrity of their claims which MOST of the NSA hub bub hinges on, the claimes uponit7771 Aug 2013 #14

Yet, that still does not change the NSA programs. morningfog Aug 2013 #15

Link to Obama reforming the NSA programs uponit7771 Aug 2013 #16

*Trying* to reform. morningfog Aug 2013 #17

Unfortunately, those claims are backed up by ANOTHER whistleblower now. Th1onein Aug 2013 #20

Their self-reinforcing pack-like behavior on these threads has passed the "forum post" stage Maedhros Aug 2013 #46

cash in? burnodo Aug 2013 #12

*They* didn't *tell* him the *truth* before he went to Leno's. Amonester Aug 2013 #19

It's downright scandalous... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #30

^^^ THIS ^^^ usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #39

I went round-and-round with one of the Hyena Pack about this. Maedhros Aug 2013 #67

Hilarious noise Aug 2013 #31

I think he's a bit busy right now reporting on the biggest story of the century usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #38

Ha! I bet they would. Then they would know the limits of what is known and morningfog Aug 2013 #5

It's like a painfully slow pas de deux, Obama doing a plie and Greenwald following behind him. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #27

So from your posts here and other threads Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2013 #56

That's it. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #34

No, we'd prefer that you package it all in a book and charge us for the 'freedom' you bestow! randome Aug 2013 #6

I would prefer our government not spy on us and then lie about it. morningfog Aug 2013 #10

yeap, we'd be better off in Russia :rolleyes: uponit7771 Aug 2013 #11

I didn't say that or think that. We should be far better than Russia. morningfog Aug 2013 #13

Well said. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #28

That will have to wait until the reporting is concluded usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #40

I would! Put up or shut up! jazzimov Aug 2013 #18

I doubt they would want to stray from their current course of putting up usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #41

'High quality'? Like what Greenwald said about PRISM and 'direct access'? randome Aug 2013 #58

Yep. As Documented on NSA's TOP SECRET material. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #59

PRISM isn't even a program. It's a database. randome Aug 2013 #60

That IS direct access to their servers. As noted in their TOP SECRET documents. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #61

It's 'direct access' to one secure FTP server per company. Not the same thing as Greenwald said. randome Aug 2013 #62

Exactly and GG did say it, the NSA TOP SECRET DOCS did. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #63

Do it, Do it! Lancero Aug 2013 #21

OMG, I just realized what this is ProSense Aug 2013 #23

Commitment to reforms noise Aug 2013 #33

Sounds more like lol to me usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #42

Oh that is just sad. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #65

Hah. millennialmax Aug 2013 #26

Speaking at the Cato Institute is common for a number of people across the political spectrum. Maedhros Aug 2013 #47

Did Ron Wyden write whitepaper for CATO? Appear at Benefactor's Summit's as a party premium? msanthrope Aug 2013 #64

I'm perfectly capable of analyzing Greenwald's body of work. Maedhros Aug 2013 #66

Who cares what wrong doers think, I'd prefer a deliberate and careful release usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #32

Annihilate the surveillance state. Utterly. Now. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #50

A stuporical question. nt greyl Aug 2013 #55