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WillyT

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Sun Aug 11, 2013, 03:56 PM Aug 2013

The NSA Is Turning The Internet Into A Total Surveillance System - GuardianUK [View all]

The NSA is turning the internet into a total surveillance system
Now we know all Americans' international email is searched and saved, we can see how far the 'collect it all' mission has gone

Alexander Abdo and Patrick Toomey - theguardian.com
Sunday 11 August 2013 09.00 EDT

According to the New York Times, the NSA is searching the content of virtually every email that comes into or goes out of the United States without a warrant. To accomplish this astonishing invasion of Americans' privacy, the NSA reportedly is making a copy of nearly every international email. It then searches that cloned data, keeping all of the emails containing certain keywords and deleting the rest – all in a matter of seconds.


The NSA appears to believe this general monitoring of our electronic communications is justified because the entire process takes, in one official's words, "a small number of seconds". Translation: the NSA thinks it can intercept and then read Americans' emails so long as the intrusion is swift, efficient and silent.

That is not how the fourth amendment works.

Whether the NSA inspects and retains these messages for years, or only searches through them once before moving on, the invasion of Americans' privacy is real and immediate. There is no "five-second rule" for fourth amendment violations: the US constitution does not excuse these bulk searches simply because they happen in the blink of an eye.


That legal theory is extraordinarily dangerous because it would allow the NSA to acquire virtually all digital information today simply because it might possibly become relevant tomorrow. The surveillance program revealed by the New York Times report goes one step further still. No longer is the government simply collecting information now so that the data is available to search, should a reasonable suspicion arise at some point in the future; the NSA is searching everything now – in real time and without suspicion – merely on the chance that it finds something of interest.

That principle of pre-emptive surveillance threatens to subvert the most basic protections of the fourth amendment, which generally prohibit the government from conducting suspicion-less fishing expeditions through our private affairs. If the government is correct that it can search our every communication in case we say or type something suspicious, there is little to prevent the NSA from converting the internet into a tool of pervasive surveillance.


More: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/11/nsa-internet-surveillance-email


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Minority Report. nt silvershadow Aug 2013 #1
The Onion Electric Monk Aug 2013 #12
The NSA have more boxes in their garage than Snowden DJ13 Aug 2013 #2
From what I have seen on the Internet, the surveillance program is not doing a good job. nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #3
why stop at communications? why not start random house searches? nashville_brook Aug 2013 #4
Have video cameras in all homes. No one would watch without a warrant of course, rhett o rick Aug 2013 #6
Turn the wi-fi capable TV's into cameras? TxGrandpa Aug 2013 #9
No doubt you've seen this or something like it: AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #14
"What I wouldn't GIVE to have my house randomly searched!" Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #18
K and R nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #5
The PreCrimes unit will be knocking on our doors with copies of all of our unpatriotic emails. BlueManFan Aug 2013 #7
I say we start a "Facebook" only with us mooning them. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #8
K&R! n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #10
Thx to the Gaurdian I have to go out and buy more Tin Foil, I think that's what SnowdenUndergruond uponit7771 Aug 2013 #11
The Irony here: formercia Aug 2013 #13
It'd be funny if it weren't so sad. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #15
I never thought the internet was supposed to be private. JohnnyRingo Aug 2013 #16
Shhhh...... don't bring reality into the delusionals whistler162 Aug 2013 #19
Crazy world we live in. JohnnyRingo Aug 2013 #21
Not quite. RC Aug 2013 #20
Before Snowden... JohnnyRingo Aug 2013 #24
I know cordless were not secure. Cordless phones do not use the internet, either. RC Aug 2013 #25
Not excusing the NSA... JohnnyRingo Aug 2013 #27
What's my email address? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #22
Kick and Recommend cantbeserious Aug 2013 #17
Has the Guardian also scrutinzed the British equivalent of the NSA? Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2013 #23
Yes: WillyT Aug 2013 #26
TIA Rex Aug 2013 #28
K&R woo me with science Aug 2013 #29
KNR Th1onein Aug 2013 #30
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