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HiPointDem

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135. Serious question: It's a fact that the US has banned blood etc. donations from gay men for

Tue Aug 13, 2013, 12:17 AM

Aug 2013

decades.

It's also a fact that last year a russian tv person, on a talk show, said that russia should do the same (they apparently presently do not).

1. Why is the latter evidence of a new holocaust (per a DU OP which is still on the front page) while the latter is not?

2. Why is drawing attention to these two facts, & the inconsistency & distortions in the 'holocaust' OP, evidence of homophobia?

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FDA bans gay men from donating blood, tissue & organs. So are we on the way to a new holocaust? [View all] HiPointDem Aug 2013 OP

New holocaust? NoOneMan Aug 2013 #1

what the hell? this is, at best, ill advised cali Aug 2013 #2

+1000 n/t Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #26

thank you, cali. nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #211

Ill advised? It's sickening... joeybee12 Aug 2013 #232

I'll second cali's comment. enlightenment Aug 2013 #3

He is a homophobe. MineralMan Aug 2013 #4

You hit the nail right on the fucking head! William769 Aug 2013 #27

Jury results: cali Aug 2013 #5

Was TOS marked? Admins see it anyway if so. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2013 #73

It was when I alerted! Vanje Aug 2013 #79

You can still alert and mark the TOS. Starry Messenger Aug 2013 #109

Yes I was the original alerter and marked the tos button. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #128

thank you for alerting on that, justin arely staircase Aug 2013 #213

I see that you are up to your old tricks. /nt yardwork Aug 2013 #6

Not anymore. Rex Aug 2013 #271

Your post just REEKS of ignorance MNBrewer Aug 2013 #7

I remember the tattoo/quarantine stuff arely staircase Aug 2013 #212

You should be ashamed theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #8

+1000 TDale313 Aug 2013 #9

I guess when it comes to insults and vitriol hurled at GLBTs theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #11

Yeah, homophobia and misogyny TDale313 Aug 2013 #12

Agreed theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #14

for sure. cali Aug 2013 #10

That you haven't self-deleted this, speaks volumes. cali Aug 2013 #13

This was my favorite comment of yours last time: joshcryer Aug 2013 #195

what on earth are you talking about? cali Aug 2013 #202

Pay attention. joshcryer Aug 2013 #203

oh for pity's sake. whatever you're trying to do? FAIL cali Aug 2013 #204

OP got banned. joshcryer Aug 2013 #205

I do not know why you wrote this but it is not a shining moment for you or DU. Please remove it. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #15

I think it's meant as an ironic response to a previous OP leftstreet Aug 2013 #17

It is in poor taste. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #18

It is facetious in a most nasty, meanspirited way. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #21

surely you don't think that's a valid excuse for this endorsement of homophobia? cali Aug 2013 #23

I said nothing about excuses leftstreet Aug 2013 #277

Your wrong. This person How shall I put this delicately? Well has a history. William769 Aug 2013 #28

yes, it is. OP characterized russian tv personalities comments saying a similar law should be HiPointDem Aug 2013 #123

Where the fuck in your tripe does it say to burn the organs? William769 Aug 2013 #125

So you're back, defending the indefensible...awesome! nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #127

This message was self-deleted by its author Newsjock Aug 2013 #130

You're wrong, Im sure...it's blatant ignorance and baiting... joeybee12 Aug 2013 #233

wtf? Starry Messenger Aug 2013 #16

My understanding is that MSM are eligible for organ donation Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #19

You are a complete disgrace to DU and should hang your head in shame. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #20

I am not inclined to let this stinkbomb of an op sink and be forgotten cali Aug 2013 #24

We need to keep it kicked so people have to keep looking at it and kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #136

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #22

+1000 dionysus Aug 2013 #35

You really should self delete this. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #25

To all in this thread. Keep kicking it for transparency sake. William769 Aug 2013 #29

yep. this cannot and should not go down the memory hole. cali Aug 2013 #30

Kick MNBrewer Aug 2013 #33

I'll see your kick & raise you one. William769 Aug 2013 #39

Wheeeee!!!! MNBrewer Aug 2013 #49

Rings a bell, yes? nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #55

Let's go one better - let's get it on the Greatest Page Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #220

your OP is a piece of shit. nt. dionysus Aug 2013 #31

Well, this was clearly a good idea. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #32

Seriously? Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #34

Get Back! cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #36

"buried or cremated", sounds like something out of a zombie movie, it's unfortunate this is serious ck4829 Aug 2013 #37

Original OP in case of self delete: one_voice Aug 2013 #38

Great thanks. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #40

my thoughts on the OP... one_voice Aug 2013 #41

Yep. Do not know what the Poster was thinking. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #42

There was no thinking involved... one_voice Aug 2013 #47

+1000 hrmjustin Aug 2013 #50

... William769 Aug 2013 #116

Come out, come out wherever you are theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #43

Do they have internet service under a rock? William769 Aug 2013 #44

Ever played whack a mole? theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #46

Yes. And we have a winner! William769 Aug 2013 #169

Kicking Vanje Aug 2013 #45

Shit like this should be a pizza Ohio Joe Aug 2013 #48

A second pizza. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #58

Do tell. yardwork Aug 2013 #67

It should ring a Bell. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #74

Ooooooooooh I think I'm getting the frequency, Kenneth. yardwork Aug 2013 #77

Hid in the education forum for a long while...aided and abetted by the denziens there. msanthrope Aug 2013 #86

The Education forum is a piece of work, indeed. yardwork Aug 2013 #88

ODS central? Well, this is the viper they nursed in their bosom. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #95

Ding ding. joshcryer Aug 2013 #80

You spotted it first in the education forum, where it played gleefully for quite a msanthrope Aug 2013 #242

I think Sid or apocalypsenow spotted it first (definitively). joshcryer Aug 2013 #292

The sad thing is that the Education group suffered when articles from socialistworker.org and msanthrope Aug 2013 #293

Perhaps you are thinking of one "Banannah Smell"? kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #141

Yep--and I called it in MIRT, over a year ago. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #291

Many of us did maddezmom Aug 2013 #298

True!!!! nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #299

Huh? Dash87 Aug 2013 #51

really bad OP steve2470 Aug 2013 #52

You do know that RT.com is controlled by Putin's allies? dbackjon Aug 2013 #177

yes I do steve2470 Aug 2013 #182

You defended the law because you don't want "children" to hear gays are normal. DevonRex Aug 2013 #53

One good thing has come of this post. A lot of DUers are seeing you for what you are yardwork Aug 2013 #54

+1000 theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #57

... William769 Aug 2013 #59

Well said yardwork! hrmjustin Aug 2013 #63

Sid was right on this one. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #66

Sid is often right, though it pains me to admit it. yardwork Aug 2013 #71

It should ring a Bell. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #76

And raise Holy Hannah Pab Sungenis Aug 2013 #222

Sid and Scurrilous know what's up better than anyone on this web site. Number23 Aug 2013 #138

Oh yeah--you notice there's quite the polyglot developing on the pro-Snowden msanthrope Aug 2013 #243

here is one that won't be missed arely staircase Aug 2013 #249

I'll miss Paul Revere. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #251

and his inexplicable coonskin hat arely staircase Aug 2013 #252

Maybe he borrowed it from Davy Crockett on his way to the Alamo. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #254

and his thumbdrive full of pizza Whisp Aug 2013 #276

LOL Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #288

he actually sent me this message arely staircase Aug 2013 #301

Finally!! one_voice Aug 2013 #253

FINALLY! That took long enough....! nt MADem Aug 2013 #272

.... Number23 Aug 2013 #278

Thank goodness tammywammy Aug 2013 #282

He kept doubling down on RT propaganda. joshcryer Aug 2013 #289

Holy shit!!! bunnies Aug 2013 #296

it was a good day. nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #300

Msanthrope, I consider myself a moderately intelligent person Number23 Aug 2013 #279

It's my polite way of suggesting many voices from few mouths....nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #284

And I call bullshit. Russians display affection just like we do. DevonRex Aug 2013 #56

how do you say "how would you like your pizza" in russian? dionysus Aug 2013 #320

Chto vy khotite na pitstsu? Or Что вы хотите на пиццу? DevonRex Aug 2013 #322

wadsworth said i can sprinkle some truffles on hannah's pizza. dionysus Aug 2013 #325

She needs to fatten up before she rises again. DevonRex Aug 2013 #326

Why is this even an issue with you? xfundy Aug 2013 #60

It's defense of the state, comrade. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #65

This is worse than your North Korea thread. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #61

You might want to take note William769 Aug 2013 #62

... TDale313 Aug 2013 #69

You got that right, Friend! theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #75

RIGHT ON! Aerows Aug 2013 #265

+1000 TexasTowelie Aug 2013 #312

Why is this up? bravenak Aug 2013 #64

Upon alert, 3 DUers said "Hide it". Vanje Aug 2013 #68

So sad. bravenak Aug 2013 #106

I would expect LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #70

Yet there are some who would contend... theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #83

Sometimes it takes the Admins time to see something. Pab Sungenis Aug 2013 #224

And many times the Admins refuse to answer ATA or emails from LGBT posters dbackjon Aug 2013 #227

This will be worth a hidden post: tammywammy Aug 2013 #72

... William769 Aug 2013 #85

. Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #87

+1 n/t Kurska Aug 2013 #96

Well said! Change has come Aug 2013 #160

Shaking head and remember name. JohnnyLib2 Aug 2013 #78

So, do I guess right if I say xfundy Aug 2013 #81

I cannot believe I am reading this on DU stevenleser Aug 2013 #82

Would you please just come out and say something! This was very hurtful and I would like an hrmjustin Aug 2013 #84

You are a very kind person, hrmjustin. You can't imagine that somebody wants to hurt people yardwork Aug 2013 #90

Thank you for your words and I am happy to see you again. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #99

I came back to read and post in the Zimmerman threads. Stuck around. yardwork Aug 2013 #104

I read your posts on the issue and they were great. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #107

I'm glad that you are on MIRT! Thank you for your service to DU. yardwork Aug 2013 #110

Thank you for coming back and fighting the good fight. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #112

You will find a thread or two on the OP in MIRT....nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #114

Thanks. I will look for them. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #115

well... half of DU is having a party right now, come on in... want a cocktail? dionysus Aug 2013 #323

as Yardwork said, you are a very kind person steve2470 Aug 2013 #92

Except that this OP has made lots of other homophobic comments yardwork Aug 2013 #97

ah ok I was not aware of that, we really do not need him or her here in that case nt steve2470 Aug 2013 #101

Yes I got into it with her the other day over the fact she was upset people were angry at Russia. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #102

She said "the law in question being you can't promote homosexuality to minors." DevonRex Aug 2013 #121

Previous OP characterized russian tv person's call for the *same* laws we have in the US HiPointDem Aug 2013 #124

You realized how much pain you caused here? hrmjustin Aug 2013 #126

I just re-read it. The US bans gay men from donating blood, tissue, and organs and has for HiPointDem Aug 2013 #131

Here is what you do. Write a whole new post asking people why they reacted the way they did. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #133

It wasn't last year, it was this past week! More propaganda? William769 Aug 2013 #134

We are all patiently waiting for your apology. I see you can't be bothered. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #146

As a service, Vanje Aug 2013 #132

I would like to see you TS'd for this crap Marrah_G Aug 2013 #89

Or at least I'd like an explanation for why this thread was permitted to stand theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #91

Sometimes the juries fail us. Marrah_G Aug 2013 #117

done fishwax Aug 2013 #164

You got your wish. winter is coming Aug 2013 #179

LOL! Marrah_G Aug 2013 #200

Kicking this, because everyone should see it as an example of how homophobia is far from conquered Kurska Aug 2013 #93

I didn't like the OP about whether Russia's law was leading us to another Holocaust either but liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #94

Wait, what?!?! You are comparing this to Pab's OP? Are you serious? There is no comparison. stevenleser Aug 2013 #105

Yeah, I caught that, too theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #108

Are they coming out of the woodwork now? William769 Aug 2013 #113

I think it is a mix. Some of these folks are bonafide homophobes. Some have so lost their minds over stevenleser Aug 2013 #119

Makes sense. William769 Aug 2013 #120

Check out Pab's thread. HPD is all over it. She's been told over and DevonRex Aug 2013 #137

Thanks for your insight, DR... Hekate Aug 2013 #262

Well... DevonRex Aug 2013 #268

I think that is right. But I would also add arely staircase Aug 2013 #302

WTF???? Sissyk Aug 2013 #98

Wow Egnever Aug 2013 #100

Best of DU mitchtv Aug 2013 #103

Classic straw man misdirection to justify blatant anti-gay segments in Russia today. pinto Aug 2013 #111

There are those who might claim that reports of homophobia on DU... theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #118

... William769 Aug 2013 #122

I wasn't around last night. Glad to see the well deserved pizza was served! Little Star Aug 2013 #210

Count yourself lucky. William769 Aug 2013 #250

Serious question: It's a fact that the US has banned blood etc. donations from gay men for HiPointDem Aug 2013 #135

I agree with the poster who called you a disgusting POS, kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #152

How the hell is this OP "homophobic"? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #142

One down...... Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #208

tick, tick, tick............ arely staircase Aug 2013 #217

it is gone now nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #248

Funny Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #286

That you cannot find the answer to your question for yourself MineralMan Aug 2013 #214

They also along with the Red Cross ban those that spent time out... Historic NY Aug 2013 #129

There is definitely a lot of homophobia in this country, that's for sure usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #139

Oh, Hannah... SidDithers Aug 2013 #140

look who's talking usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #145

And you're defending a zombie... SidDithers Aug 2013 #147

The OP has been removed by the owners of this site, hrmjustin Aug 2013 #149

well, than maybe he had some kind of history, but I don't see anything homophobic in the OP usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #153

No we were pissed at her Homophobia thank you! hrmjustin Aug 2013 #155

Three things that don't surprise me tammywammy Aug 2013 #157

You know what usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #161

It would be better if you took your homophobia off of DU dbackjon Aug 2013 #178

bullshit usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #201

You have substantiated plenty over the past few days dbackjon Aug 2013 #226

and you're out of DU, troll ass motherfucker... dionysus Aug 2013 #324

Plus a MILLION, tammy. Number23 Aug 2013 #176

Heres a little tip the NSA is watching you. William769 Aug 2013 #159

And you usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #163

RT = homophobia apologia. joshcryer Aug 2013 #192

RT does equal homophobia apologia and it should be banned from DU Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #223

I assume you are referring to Thom Hartmann? If you are referring to me, you should read stevenleser Aug 2013 #260

At minimum they have zero credibility on LGBT issues. joshcryer Aug 2013 #285

Wow, really? maddezmom Aug 2013 #209

your slip is showing snooper2 Aug 2013 #239

well... bye... dionysus Aug 2013 #306

if you can't figure out what's wrong with the op cali Aug 2013 #206

I think you're misunderstanding the OP Dash87 Aug 2013 #218

I missed the defense of N Korea BainsBane Aug 2013 #166

Thus ends the lesson!!! hrmjustin Aug 2013 #143

Well deserved pizza alcibiades_mystery Aug 2013 #158

Thank you. When the poster responded to me I was so angry so I told her to back off and bother hrmjustin Aug 2013 #162

This message was self-deleted by its author William769 Aug 2013 #144

YIKES usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #148

it just happened, troll arely staircase Aug 2013 #247

two for the price of one! I like it. cali Aug 2013 #255

Bigot jerk is GONE. 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2013 #150

HiPointDem / Hannah Bell has once again been escorted from the building... SidDithers Aug 2013 #151

And good riddance! tammywammy Aug 2013 #154

That connection always cracked me up ProSense Aug 2013 #156

I'm surprised it took so long RZM Aug 2013 #165

But who will tell us Russia's homophobic law is ok & North Korea is DevonRex Aug 2013 #167

And Bill Gates... SidDithers Aug 2013 #168

Or any kind of philanthropy, especially trusts. n/t tammywammy Aug 2013 #170

Celebration Day DevonRex Aug 2013 #171

Dancing the night away... SidDithers Aug 2013 #173

Hahaha!!! DevonRex Aug 2013 #180

I Think This Works For Tonight, Too... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #184

That was flat-out hilarious....! nt MADem Aug 2013 #194

OMG LOL!!!!! Hannah will be playing that on a loop DevonRex Aug 2013 #269

I didn't get to dance last time. joshcryer Aug 2013 #188

LOL Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #225

Excellent! I needed a gif just like that for my collection... SAVED. penultimate Aug 2013 #236

I think Zimbabwe is next RZM Aug 2013 #172

The Bottom Line... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #174

Funny how she's so (rightly) concerned about other forms of oppression - classism etc. - nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #183

A Classic Example... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #185

Incredibly selective, though, to the point of being myopic. Hypocritical in fact. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #186

Unfortunately A Common Trait... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #189

So many of the back-and-forth arguments on this site are just pure sophistry. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #191

Apparently the poster is actually male BainsBane Aug 2013 #216

I thought Hannah Bell was a male, too. Quantess Aug 2013 #275

OMG, noooo! DevonRex Aug 2013 #181

I can fill that role if you'd like... penultimate Aug 2013 #235

Thanks for the offer. Haha. I'm sure DevonRex Aug 2013 #261

and cigs are good for you, don't forget that one! dionysus Aug 2013 #307

She DID??? Because they don't have food in NK so they smoke? DevonRex Aug 2013 #308

Link? joshcryer Aug 2013 #310

it was on DU2, in an antismoking thread. she posted all these pics of celebrities holding cigs, that dionysus Aug 2013 #319

IGNORED BY 73 PEOPLE!!!! Jeeeeesus! penultimate Aug 2013 #234

Holy shit and I thought I had a lot of ignores. joshcryer Aug 2013 #290

At the time of this ones PPR he had 172 members ignoring him. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #321

usGovOwesUs3Trillion got banned too. pintobean Aug 2013 #241

It's a two-fer! HappyMe Aug 2013 #244

It's a wonderful day in the neighborhood pintobean Aug 2013 #245

Don't you love these "Buy 1 Pizza, Get 1 Free" deals? LadyHawkAZ Aug 2013 #256

My wife just called pintobean Aug 2013 #274

:giggle: LadyHawkAZ Aug 2013 #280

Yeah that one smelt like a rehash or mashup of older socks. Rex Aug 2013 #317

I don't understand what this post is even trying to say. phleshdef Aug 2013 #175

False equivalence saying the US is bad therefore don't cast stones. joshcryer Aug 2013 #187

Oh ok, great summarization. phleshdef Aug 2013 #196

In the other thread OP basically say "it's not that bad." joshcryer Aug 2013 #198

Thank you, been gone and missed that post and thanks to the bannind uppityperson Aug 2013 #199

Not me Vanje Aug 2013 #221

Thank you for explaining the holocaust part as it made no sense Generic Other Aug 2013 #309

I didn't read the holocaust thread at first. joshcryer Aug 2013 #311

The best news we've heard this week.... MADem Aug 2013 #190

The socks are flying thick and fast, and it's so nice to see one hit the laundry chute at last.nt Hekate Aug 2013 #197

If it comes back, it will do what it did the last time--hide out in a policy forum like msanthrope Aug 2013 #259

+1,000 nt MADem Aug 2013 #270

strange thread...nt Jesus Malverde Aug 2013 #193

Holy crap. gollygee Aug 2013 #207

Thanks to everyone here who took a stand against homophobia on DU theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #215

it's an obligation. and we shouldn't need thanks, though it is appreciated cali Aug 2013 #231

You're really going all out Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #219

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #228

Poster has been tombstoned... progressoid Aug 2013 #229

And that tombstone was well-deserved. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #230

It's good to know that just because a jury returns an effed-up verdict Lex Aug 2013 #237

This makes me smile. Dr. Strange Aug 2013 #238

Oh, those smiling North Koreans.....nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #257

I'm actually a wee bit sad. Had a photo op at the DMZ all lined up DevonRex Aug 2013 #294

I hope one day Hannah is able to emigrate to the socialist paradise of 'her' choice. msanthrope Aug 2013 #295

Ahem... Jamastiene Aug 2013 #240

.......... YoungDemCA Aug 2013 #246

What in the hell Aerows Aug 2013 #258

Be of good cheer. There was a 2-for-1 pizza delivery in this thread, starting with the OP Hekate Aug 2013 #263

Oh, that's awesome Aerows Aug 2013 #264

The whole thread was so jaw-dropping that I had to come back and visit it today Hekate Aug 2013 #266

I was so stunned, I didn't know what to say Aerows Aug 2013 #267

One more for ignore Zorra Aug 2013 #273

This poster has been tombstoned BainsBane Aug 2013 #287

And another kick, to expose this shit to more daylight. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #281

Russian State TV Host: Gay Bashing Victims Only Bring It Upon Themselves MNBrewer Aug 2013 #283

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #297

Delicious...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #303

let us ring the Bell for our dearly departed..... dionysus Aug 2013 #305

The high point of our day, right? Hekate Aug 2013 #315

na na na na hannah hannah.. goooodbye.... dionysus Aug 2013 #304

Here it is: DevonRex Aug 2013 #314

. dionysus Aug 2013 #318

Awesome!!!!! nt DevonRex Aug 2013 #327

Adding another kick. TexasTowelie Aug 2013 #313

LOUD NOISES! Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #316

??? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #328