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In reply to the discussion: Dangeroulsy Naive, or Liar(s) -- SnowGlen. [View all]Whisp
(24,096 posts)1. Further on in that piece is reference to a term called Graymail.
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Graymail
This article is about the threat of revelation of secrets. For solicited bulk email, see Graymail (email). For other uses, see Graymail (disambiguation).
Graymail is the threatened revelation of state secrets in order to manipulate legal proceedings. It is distinct from blackmail, which may include threats of revelation against, and manipulation of, any private individual. Graymail is used as a defense tactic, forcing the government to drop a case to avoid revealing national secrets.
Graymail can occur in two ways:
To straightforwardly blackmail the government, forcing them to drop the case using the threat that if the trial proceeds the defendant will reveal classified information he or she already knows.
To request use of classified material, e.g. as evidence, in the trial. The defendant speculates that the government will be unwilling to make the material fully available to the case, and that this will raise the possibility, in the eyes of the judge or jury, that the unreleased material might clear the defendant, making it difficult to prove guilt.[1]
In the United States, the Classified Information Procedures Act of 1980, also known as the Graymail Law, was designed to counter the second tactic above by allowing judges to review classified material in secret, so that the prosecution can proceed without fear of publicly disclosing sensitive intelligence.[2]
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Manning tried that in his defense, and the judge shut it down pretty quickly. I think
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#7
Apart for Jason Bourne-inspired fantasies, what 'torture' is Snowden facing from the
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#9
You keep right on laughing about the notion of "torture!" The yucks are tremendous!
villager
Aug 2013
#25
I am laughing at Mr. Snowden and his fantastical notions--I mean, who puts on a red hood
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#28
Yes--because GIGGLING at Snowden is support of the MIC!! Wait, I thought it wasn't about him? nt
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#40
Reining in the MIC isn't going to happen through a guy in a red hood. That's a super hero shortcut
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#49
Of course it does....but the Executive doesn't make the budget, and doesn't create law. Article 2
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#52
This goes back to the Constitution--the Executive is limited because the Executive
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#54
Well if the Constitution says it, it must always be true! Why those silly worries about Bush,
villager
Aug 2013
#55
You can't trust people who lie to you, even if they're trying to give you the least untruthful
hughee99
Aug 2013
#4
Yep, he is such a fool, how did he ever manage to pants the NSA in public like this?
bemildred
Aug 2013
#5
Judgement is called for, lots of it, severe and stringent judgement, a bias towards doing NOTHING.
bemildred
Aug 2013
#27
A guy who writes on intelligence for Reuters, the Atlantic, the NYT, is obscure to you?
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#19
You might want to read up on his lobbying on behalf of torture states and the defense industry.
DisgustipatedinCA
Aug 2013
#68
"The U.S. government should be on your knees every day praying that nothing happens to Snowden..."
ProSense
Aug 2013
#10
GG tried that type of bravado against Patrick Fitzgerald when he was representing Matt Hale--and it
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#16
Oh yeah--anybody who thinks GG isn't going to screw over Snowden the way he screwed over Matt
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#42
"stop assuming the first version of the “facts” is correct". Good advice, but outrage junkies can't
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2013
#72
It's kind of like self-flagellation on their parts: "Spy on me! Spy on me! I deserve it!"
villager
Aug 2013
#47
I do, too. Especially when the messenger in this case is a guy who had repeatedly gotten GG
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#44
****DER SPIEGEL IS WORKING WITH THE NSA!!!**** or...that's what SnowGlen said so it must
uponit7771
Aug 2013
#34
Why are you posting material from a man who shills for Khazakstan's torture regime?
DisgustipatedinCA
Aug 2013
#66