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bemildred

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64. Right, on this scale, they need lots of "analysts".

Tue Aug 13, 2013, 03:22 PM

Aug 2013

And that is just great because it's more money for their empire.

But that is not how you keep secrets. That's what you do in commercial above the ground enterprises, expand, scale up.

That's why I think these guys are confused. And that's why I think Putin looks amused. They already did "Total Information Awareness" there in the USSR, and they know where that goes, it's much too overt, you lose your legitimacy. We used to brag at them about the virtues of our open society, back in the day, I remember, I was there. Now he is watching us make their old mistake.

The best way to secure a government is for it to govern well.

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Dangeroulsy Naive, or Liar(s) -- SnowGlen. [View all] Whisp Aug 2013 OP

Further on in that piece is reference to a term called Graymail. Whisp Aug 2013 #1

Manning tried that in his defense, and the judge shut it down pretty quickly. I think msanthrope Aug 2013 #7

Yes, let's all giggle about torture! villager Aug 2013 #2

I agree, Glenn and Snow are torturing us Whisp Aug 2013 #3

I agree, you would be more bothered by that than by actual torture villager Aug 2013 #6

Clowns, you say? riqster Aug 2013 #30

IT Whisp Aug 2013 #35

Tim Curry plays great odd characters. riqster Aug 2013 #45

Apart for Jason Bourne-inspired fantasies, what 'torture' is Snowden facing from the msanthrope Aug 2013 #9

Because the U.S. would never, ever torture anyone! It's hilarious, I tell ya! villager Aug 2013 #11

The idea that Snowden would be 'tortured' by the US *is* laughable. msanthrope Aug 2013 #12

You keep right on laughing about the notion of "torture!" The yucks are tremendous! villager Aug 2013 #25

I am laughing at Mr. Snowden and his fantastical notions--I mean, who puts on a red hood msanthrope Aug 2013 #28

...because no one would ever spy on anyone's internet activity! villager Aug 2013 #29

And a red hood is gonna solve that? nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #31

No -- the MIC you so vigorously defend isn't so easily stymied. villager Aug 2013 #33

Yes--because GIGGLING at Snowden is support of the MIC!! Wait, I thought it wasn't about him? nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #40

And yet, that's who this whole thread -- and your responses! -- are about! villager Aug 2013 #46

Reining in the MIC isn't going to happen through a guy in a red hood. That's a super hero shortcut msanthrope Aug 2013 #49

So it doesn't matter who is in the Executive Branch, then villager Aug 2013 #51

Of course it does....but the Executive doesn't make the budget, and doesn't create law. Article 2 msanthrope Aug 2013 #52

And how has the Executive been "more limited" in recent administrations? villager Aug 2013 #53

This goes back to the Constitution--the Executive is limited because the Executive msanthrope Aug 2013 #54

Well if the Constitution says it, it must always be true! Why those silly worries about Bush, villager Aug 2013 #55

I'm sure posting about Bush on the Internet did a lot. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #56

Does about as much as claiming we have nothing to worry about. nt villager Aug 2013 #57

Sounds like Joseph smith and the magic hat. bravenak Aug 2013 #32

Supermax, being naked and watched in a cell. tblue Aug 2013 #62

Unlike Manning, Snowden is considered a traitor Rex Aug 2013 #74

Maybe a side trip to Syria. Rex Aug 2013 #73

You can't trust people who lie to you, even if they're trying to give you the least untruthful hughee99 Aug 2013 #4

Yep, he is such a fool, how did he ever manage to pants the NSA in public like this? bemildred Aug 2013 #5

^^^This^^^ n/t ljm2002 Aug 2013 #17

because apparently the NSA got a little lax in the contractors they use snooper2 Aug 2013 #20

Using contractors is already quite lax. Naive, even stupid. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #23

I would tend to agree-- snooper2 Aug 2013 #24

Judgement is called for, lots of it, severe and stringent judgement, a bias towards doing NOTHING. bemildred Aug 2013 #27

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2013 #36

It will always be done by contractors. tblue Aug 2013 #58

Right, on this scale, they need lots of "analysts". bemildred Aug 2013 #64

Yeah. The dummy. tblue Aug 2013 #59

Must be another one of them "crazed loners". bemildred Aug 2013 #63

Why are you bothering posting this? Th1onein Aug 2013 #8

and from an obscure blogger, too... grasswire Aug 2013 #13

A guy who writes on intelligence for Reuters, the Atlantic, the NYT, is obscure to you? msanthrope Aug 2013 #19

Ctrl + C and Ctrl + V Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #26

You might want to read up on his lobbying on behalf of torture states and the defense industry. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #68

I'm sure you have a cite? nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #70

"The U.S. government should be on your knees every day praying that nothing happens to Snowden..." ProSense Aug 2013 #10

GG tried that type of bravado against Patrick Fitzgerald when he was representing Matt Hale--and it msanthrope Aug 2013 #16

freakin wow!!! uponit7771 Aug 2013 #37

Oh yeah--anybody who thinks GG isn't going to screw over Snowden the way he screwed over Matt msanthrope Aug 2013 #42

GG is a slime ball, wtf...sounds like the "sell your soul" type of guy uponit7771 Aug 2013 #65

ProSense, when Greenwald said that my heart dropped Iliyah Aug 2013 #61

So one of them is LYING CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #67

A Catalogue of Journalistic Malfeasance Whisp Aug 2013 #14

"stop assuming the first version of the �facts� is correct". Good advice, but outrage junkies can't Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #72

More Propaganda from the NSA Surveillance Lovers AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #15

I'll help you out and give you the proper definiton of Propaganda: Whisp Aug 2013 #21

It's kind of like self-flagellation on their parts: "Spy on me! Spy on me! I deserve it!" villager Aug 2013 #47

You would think that at some point, bvar22 Aug 2013 #50

There's every reason to believe the NSA is here defending itself tblue Aug 2013 #60

"Freelance Journalist" Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #18

Good enough for PBS, the BBC, Reuters, the Atlantic, plus having his own msanthrope Aug 2013 #22

I love them attacking the messenger. great white snark Aug 2013 #38

*snort* Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #39

I do, too. Especially when the messenger in this case is a guy who had repeatedly gotten GG msanthrope Aug 2013 #44

****DER SPIEGEL IS WORKING WITH THE NSA!!!**** or...that's what SnowGlen said so it must uponit7771 Aug 2013 #34

Naive or not, they work for Putin now, and good luck with that! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #41

WTF? Does he know the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique too? CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #43

I highly suggest you see this! Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #48

Why are you posting material from a man who shills for Khazakstan's torture regime? DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #66

and do you believe in the man, GG, who supported/s Citizen's United Whisp Aug 2013 #71

So, release it all and let us decide. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #69