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Showing Original Post only (View all)NSA, DEA, IRS Lie About Fact That Americans Are Routinely Spied On By Our Government: Time For A... [View all]
NSA, DEA, IRS Lie About Fact That Americans Are Routinely Spied On By Our Government: Time For A Special ProsecutorBy Jennifer Stisa Granick and Christopher Jon Sprigman - Forbes
8/14/2013 @ 2:54PM
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It seems that every day brings a new revelation about the scope of the NSAs heretofore secret warrantless mass surveillance programs. And as we learn more, the picture becomes increasingly alarming. Last week we discovered that the NSA shares information with a division of the Drug Enforcement Agency called the Special Operations Division (SOD). The DEA uses the information in drug investigations. But it also gives NSA data out to other agencies in particular, the Internal Revenue Service, which, as you might imagine, is always looking for information on tax cheats.
The Obama Administration repeatedly has assured us that the NSA does not collect the private information of ordinary Americans. Those statements simply are not true. We now know that the agency regularly intercepts and inspects Americans phone calls, emails, and other communications, and it shares this information with other federal agencies that use it to investigate drug trafficking and tax evasion. Worse, DEA and IRS agents are told to lie to judges and defense attorneys about their use of NSA data, and about the very existence of the SOD, and to make up stories about how these investigations started so that no one will know information is coming from the NSAs top secret surveillance programs.
Now, wait a minute, you might be saying. How does a foreign intelligence agency which supposedly is looking for terrorists and only targets non-U.S. persons get ahold of information useful in IRS investigations of American tax cheats? To answer that question, lets review this weeks revelations.
Back in 2005, several media outlets reported that NSA has direct access to the stream of communications data, carried over fiber optic cables that connect central telephone switching facilities in the U.S. with one another and with networks in foreign countries. Reports suggested that the NSA had installed equipment referred to as splitter cabinets at main phone company offices, where they make a copy of all data traveling on the fiber optic cable and route it into a secret room where computers scan through the information searching for names and terms that are themselves secret as it goes by. For years, the federal government refused to comment on these reports. But on August 8, an unnamed senior administration official confirmed this practice to the New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/08/us/broader-sifting-of-data-abroad-is-seen-by-nsa.html?ref=global-home
We also learned that the NSA can grab information off these fiber optic cables in near real time using a tool called XKeyscore (XKS). Searching the firehose of Internet and telephone data as it flows takes an immense amount of computing power. The XKS system dumps a portion of the communications information NSA snatches into a truly immense local storage cache. This cache can keep network information for a few days, depending on the amount of traffic. This gives the NSAs computers time to search through what otherwise would be an unmanageable torrent of emails, phone calls, chats, social network posts, and other communications. And importantly, XKS searches do not involve just communications metadata. The XKS system searches the contents of our Internet and telephone communications. Which is directly at odds with repeated Administration statements suggesting that NSA mass surveillance was limited to metadata.
To seize and search through all of this information without a warrant, the agency must...
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More: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jennifergranick/2013/08/14/nsa-dea-irs-lie-about-fact-that-americans-are-routinely-spied-on-by-our-government-time-for-a-special-prosecutor-2/
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NSA, DEA, IRS Lie About Fact That Americans Are Routinely Spied On By Our Government: Time For A... [View all]
WillyT
Aug 2013
OP
You're apt to be alerted on. The authoritarians here dont like to be called authoritarians. nm
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#6
There is a fine line between rhetoric and lying. We would like to know his
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#11
Evidently Google is now claiming that the contents of Gmail have no expectation of privacy
Fumesucker
Aug 2013
#17
I'd say most of them have clauses in their terms of service that would allow them to make...
phleshdef
Aug 2013
#20
Dude... When Was The Last Time You, Or Anyone Of Us, Actually Read The TOS We Agreed To ???
WillyT
Aug 2013
#18
And, if all the ISPs are subject to NSA demands, etc., what option do consumers have?
spooky3
Aug 2013
#35
You can bet that the authors would be sued if what they reported were groundless.
spooky3
Aug 2013
#34
That's what a special prosecutor's job is. Thanks for agreeing with the OP (nt)
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2013
#50
It would be nice if you would discuss the article instead of snarking thru the thread. nt
Mojorabbit
Aug 2013
#40
The main point is that the whistleblower describes the NSA equipment
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2013
#54
Why do you say "it doesn't work like that" and then proceed to describe it working like that?
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2013
#56