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Swagman

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47. why is that those who oppose Snowden

Tue Aug 20, 2013, 10:26 PM

Aug 2013

..oppose every single aspect of what followed ?

they denigrate Snowden...they claim Morales is a dramatist when his jet is side-tracked..they claim Greenwald is an 'egotist' (as is Assange)..they now denigrate Greenwald's partner he is detained..

it's always the same DUers who flatly oppose every twist and turn in this tale of the secret recording of your personal details...

there is no grey area in their thinking, no doubts that some parts may be true and some false and bad things are happening...this blanket opposition seems organised to me.

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From Facebook - Alan Grayson: "I stand with Glenn Greenwald. Do you?" [View all] L0oniX Aug 2013 OP

I hope Alan Grayson, DU member, will chime in and kick this post. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #1

Kicking that post. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #10

Proof that good people are wrong sometimes. tridim Aug 2013 #2

Maybe you are the good person who is wrong. n/t totodeinhere Aug 2013 #90

I've never been wrong about ID'ing scams and scammers. Not once. tridim Aug 2013 #93

There's a first time for everything. nt Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #94

Yes, he is wrong this time, as is neo-DU. nt tridim Aug 2013 #95

That made no sense. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #133

Ah the Neo DU Strike Out HangOnKids Aug 2013 #136

Is that a "Neo" meme? Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #143

Well Gosh It Might Be Send It To The Neo Board For Examination! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #144

Absolute certainty is the opposite of open-mindedness. Just sayin. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #112

Grayson is a far cry from a scammer. You can disagree with him and that's fine but totodeinhere Aug 2013 #115

Is Grayson sending emails about Nigeria now? HangOnKids Aug 2013 #137

It looked to me like the poster was calling GG a scammer. eom Blanks Aug 2013 #146

Maybe you're just wrong about the privacy part? lark Aug 2013 #135

Definitely agree. mimi85 Aug 2013 #148

This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Aug 2013 #3

Thank you. MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #4

Grayson, almost incredible from a politician in these times. Amazing. enough Aug 2013 #5

^^^THIS!^^^ L0oniX Aug 2013 #7

So far as I know Grayson, I stand with him on this and on the TPP. n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #11

And that's why he was elected. East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #21

Yep.. a Democrat being a Democrat. ananda Aug 2013 #71

If you try to throw Grayson under the bus here railsback Aug 2013 #6

Alan is the sharpest tool in congress's tool shed! Love him!!!!!! Little Star Aug 2013 #8

I'll bring the bus. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #9

I will join you, Jackpine. I already offered an opinion on another thread about roguevalley Aug 2013 #81

Even the Republicans of old were better Democrats than most of the current crop of Democrats. RC Aug 2013 #99

Excellent mixed-salad of BS talking points! Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #12

Well thanks for adding the salad dressing. What would we do without you? n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #13

The question is more a matter of Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #15

Maybe you could start your own op with your question. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #17

I just comment on the idiocy Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #18

Hey! That's MY job! Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #33

I must be pissing off the assholes. Only 55 recs so far. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #46

I forgot to rec! Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #53

Up to 177 now, lark Aug 2013 #140

Yea ...a D that continues what Bush started and expanded it even more. L0oniX Aug 2013 #145

No, just derision RetroLounge Aug 2013 #65

I know! I was all set to read what Alan Grayson said and got caught up in a blizzard of nonsensical Number23 Aug 2013 #70

I have a feeling ... Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #73

I stand with Greenwald, too. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #14

As opposed to when you don't agree with someone's position Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #19

Yes, of course I'll state my opinion. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #25

Summer Hathaway - "I don't invite discussion thereof." Ah ...that must be your "high road". n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #48

Your reply was the high road? lark Aug 2013 #141

I simply quoted the poster's own words back to him. Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #142

K&R idwiyo Aug 2013 #16

"Like" Mike Nelson Aug 2013 #20

Kick And Recommend cantbeserious Aug 2013 #22

NO !!! uponit7771 Aug 2013 #23

Oh Christ... one_voice Aug 2013 #24

That is the problem with listing to one voice. zeemike Aug 2013 #41

If you have more than one voice one_voice Aug 2013 #43

Well pleased to met you. zeemike Aug 2013 #51

Nice to meet you... one_voice Aug 2013 #56

Yep, music does have that quality. zeemike Aug 2013 #62

I think the eight years mimi85 Aug 2013 #110

No I think it is more like The Tale of Two Cities. zeemike Aug 2013 #123

Are you kidding me? HangOnKids Aug 2013 #139

I try - it's hard mimi85 Aug 2013 #147

Some can choose which of the voices in their head to listen to. Drugs can help too. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #104

By all means ...keep doing the same thing that fails. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #54

No I'm not high... one_voice Aug 2013 #57

Who wrote that? I tried to follow the links but couldn't find Whisp Aug 2013 #77

I don't know... one_voice Aug 2013 #96

I do! n/t wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #26

Count me in. 840high Aug 2013 #27

Oh, didn't you know? Alan Grayson's a right-wing racist Paulbot! backscatter712 Aug 2013 #28

He must be. Why else would he be for what Snowden and Greenwald did/are doing? RC Aug 2013 #100

K&R 99Forever Aug 2013 #29

K&R forestpath Aug 2013 #30

Oh Yeah... WillyT Aug 2013 #31

"... succumbs to the destruction of Democracy's illusion. Dustlawyer Aug 2013 #32

That's my Congressman! DirkGently Aug 2013 #34

I stand with him on some stuff not on others. iandhr Aug 2013 #35

The bus is huge! mick063 Aug 2013 #36

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #37

"Authoritarian taint licker posse" RetroLounge Aug 2013 #68

That thread was despicable BrotherIvan Aug 2013 #75

Indeed I Do !!! SamKnause Aug 2013 #38

Assange rtracey Aug 2013 #98

This guy is an absolute joke. tritsofme Aug 2013 #39

He is the first of many that will realize it is time to jump ship mick063 Aug 2013 #42

go on.... ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #55

Uh Oh SammyWinstonJack Aug 2013 #40

FUCK Greenwald. I NEVER liked him jazzimov Aug 2013 #44

too bad. Greenwald will go on writing and having influence and Swagman Aug 2013 #49

+1 sagat Aug 2013 #72

Thank you! Maedhros Aug 2013 #76

What's his personal agenda ? limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #86

That's nice. Now tell us why the NSA spying on the communications of American citizens is such a RC Aug 2013 #101

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ L0oniX Aug 2013 #106

blahaahahaha! nashville_brook Aug 2013 #129

I'd stand with better regulatory oversight bhikkhu Aug 2013 #45

why is that those who oppose Snowden Swagman Aug 2013 #47

They must be just fine, dandy and warm all over with the Stasi NSA and DHS sort of USA thingy. L0oniX Aug 2013 #52

Nope, just the personality cult... HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #60

And that thumping you just heard is what it sounds like when a good politician goes under the bus Scootaloo Aug 2013 #50

If we had a thousand more just like him, we would not be in this mess. RC Aug 2013 #102

If we had a 1000 Puglover Aug 2013 #108

Thank you Alan gopiscrap Aug 2013 #58

The creme always rises to the top. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #59

KnR! I stand with Grayson! HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #61

knr Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #63

I stand with Grayson and Greenwald n/t Oilwellian Aug 2013 #64

Of course Grayson stands with GG.. he's just like him. two hyperbolic Cha Aug 2013 #66

There we go! What took you so long? RetroLounge Aug 2013 #69

It took them a while to crawl out of the woodwoork. Fuddnik Aug 2013 #79

They had to wait for the Talking Points, bvar22 Aug 2013 #125

Your insulting remark about one of the few bona fide progressives totodeinhere Aug 2013 #91

wow -- true colors. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #128

K&R n/t Michigan-Arizona Aug 2013 #67

knr nt livingwagenow Aug 2013 #74

no, no I do not. Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #78

The US govt, and the British gov't are the terrorists now. Fuddnik Aug 2013 #80

K&R!! Thank you to Mr. Grayson felix_numinous Aug 2013 #82

I stand with Grayson. blackspade Aug 2013 #83

K&R. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #84

hell yeah I #standwithglenn limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #85

knr Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #87

I stand with Alan Grayson and everything he does! I stand with Bernie Sanders and everything he Nanjing to Seoul Aug 2013 #88

Kicked and Recommended! nt Enthusiast Aug 2013 #89

It's very disheartening to come to a site like this which is supposed to be a safe haven totodeinhere Aug 2013 #92

Progressive site? Where have you been? RC Aug 2013 #107

I completely agree. That's why I said "supposedly progressive." totodeinhere Aug 2013 #114

I can't believe that LiberalLovinLug Aug 2013 #130

Yeah, OK. RC Aug 2013 #134

This site, and the Progressive movement as a whole, is a FAR cry from what it was Daniel537 Aug 2013 #132

AND AGAIN THE FAR LEFT WINS NOTHING Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #97

Being right does not mean you always win ...obviously. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #103

That last paragraph is so overdramatic treestar Aug 2013 #105

I stand with Greenwald, Grayson, Manning, Assange, Snowden..anyone else who believes in truth xiamiam Aug 2013 #109

I like Grayson mimi85 Aug 2013 #111

No, I stand with the constitution. JNelson6563 Aug 2013 #113

Yes, indeed. Maedhros Aug 2013 #116

I would be thrilled if JNelson6563 Aug 2013 #117

I disagree with your assessment of Greenwald's motives. Maedhros Aug 2013 #118

Then we'll have to agree to disagree. JNelson6563 Aug 2013 #119

I'm happy to do so. Maedhros Aug 2013 #121

k&r! Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #120

Sir, we have a fourth bus arriving...can we pencil you in? Rex Aug 2013 #122

Grayson - newest member of the Rand Paul coalition Doctor_J Aug 2013 #124

Well we wouldn't want to have our Dem admin extending the Bush NSA and DHS. L0oniX Aug 2013 #126

Proud to STAND with Grayson. bvar22 Aug 2013 #127

...but apparently not with Edward Snowden brooklynite Aug 2013 #131

Or.. Send money nt railsback Aug 2013 #138