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Tierra_y_Libertad

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92. In matters of conscience, the law of majority has no place. - Gandhi

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 01:19 PM

Aug 2013

I've been here since 2001 and most of the arguments/divisions are between the Left Democrats and Right Democrats. The 2016 primary season will highlight that vigor.

The Democratic party since the civil war has swung from moderate left to moderate right. Unfortunately, it's never been far left. Hence the it's the "not as bad" party for some leftists. For some of us, "not as bad" in some cases is acceptable, i.e. Democratic candidates in red states who are lukewarm on gun control. In other cases, it's not, i.e. Democratic candidates who are anti-abortion rights.

Being in the "far left" minority doesn't diminish what we stand for.

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How Many Here Love The Fact That We've Gone From Democratic Base... To "Far Left" ??? [View all] WillyT Aug 2013 OP

My heroes are still FDR, Truman, JFK and MLK LongTomH Aug 2013 #1

Mine Too, But... WillyT Aug 2013 #3

And they weren't 'far left' leftstreet Aug 2013 #4

Funny Thing... They Weren't... Until Now... WillyT Aug 2013 #17

Reagan WAS moderate next to some members even here on DU. n/t 1awake Aug 2013 #38

That's some serious "revisionist history." MADem Aug 2013 #82

Ike would be a leftist to some of these so called Democrats. JEB Aug 2013 #2

Man to some of these folks Savannahmann Aug 2013 #5

Ike insisted on a 91% top tax rate MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #76

They look at the "far left" as the Tea Party branch of the Democratic Party. kentuck Aug 2013 #6

Kentuck the far Left is not the Democratic base. bluestate10 Aug 2013 #11

The "far left" is not the far left either.... kentuck Aug 2013 #36

The far Left never was and is not currently the Democratic base. Let's get that straight. bluestate10 Aug 2013 #7

They were by default. At least those who could stomach the options Cerridwen Aug 2013 #9

The definition you printed describes no one at the Center or far Left. bluestate10 Aug 2013 #16

Quoting JFK from PBS is right-wing drivel? Cerridwen Aug 2013 #19

You gave a really close shave there. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #33

Yeah, JFK's definition of liberal is always really close. Cerridwen Aug 2013 #34

Kapow! Starry Messenger Aug 2013 #42

+1 Marr Aug 2013 #75

Yes and provided a quick end to the conversation. wilsonbooks Aug 2013 #79

Heck, it used to be not just the far left that always said NO to those attacking Social Security... cascadiance Aug 2013 #32

+1 Go Vols Aug 2013 #71

"left-center" burnodo Aug 2013 #10

I don't give a shit about republicans, I want that party to vanish quickly. What I do care bluestate10 Aug 2013 #24

The part of the Party that you define as the "base" of the Party.... kentuck Aug 2013 #39

Don't waste your breath... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #22

Damn lousy kids. Get offa my Lennin quakerboy Aug 2013 #57

I understand where you're coming from I think, but I do want to point out that I saw some HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #67

You're missing the point dflprincess Aug 2013 #47

And what used to be considered the 'far left' has been reduced, thanks to bi-partisan attacks from HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #68

the BASE is closer to the CENTER than you far-black-helicopting-hysterical leftists want to think! burnodo Aug 2013 #8

They need to earn our votes. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #13

They don't see it that way burnodo Aug 2013 #15

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #51

Careful! burnodo Aug 2013 #54

(scratching my head) PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #55

I think your Nader poster is going to be removed. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #58

Advocating for a presidential choice that is not a Democrat is not allowed burnodo Aug 2013 #59

It looks like you joined DU at about the same time I did: Raksha Aug 2013 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Aug 2013 #56

sorry burnodo Aug 2013 #62

I was informed today that neo-DUers in our midst but the accuser hasn't graced me Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #12

Basically, it's anyone the accuser doesn't agree with. TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #23

Or an Amateur? IDemo Aug 2013 #44

Political parties do evolve.. DCBob Aug 2013 #14

The political parties of note in this country have "evolved" to the right in recent decades burnodo Aug 2013 #18

Or In This Case...DEvolve... WillyT Aug 2013 #20

You're wasting your time. Some people on DU, including the OP view themselves as the bluestate10 Aug 2013 #28

"They first have to reverse the decline" burnodo Aug 2013 #45

amd sometimes they go down the shitter. kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #66

lol at the comments you got Hydra Aug 2013 #21

Well... They Did Not Disapoint... Did They ??? WillyT Aug 2013 #27

Here's how the "sensible" Dems collaborated in war crimes and crimes against humanity. Back in HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #69

Hey! babylonsister Aug 2013 #25

Just Trying To Keep It Lively... WillyT Aug 2013 #35

unfortunately current dems leadership is from the republican wing of the democratic party nt msongs Aug 2013 #26

+1 forestpath Aug 2013 #30

I used to be happily in the center of the party, part of the "base". HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #29

+1 forestpath Aug 2013 #31

I stopped voting for corporatists and Big Bro in 2012. Raksha Aug 2013 #65

WE!?!!?? thx uponit7771 Aug 2013 #37

What... You're Not A Democrat ??? WillyT Aug 2013 #40

Not a purist lefty (my meme, I started it dammit !! ) uponit7771 Aug 2013 #41

Also fascinating that "far left" now means "not far right." DirkGently Aug 2013 #43

I don't recognize my Party in the above discussion? kentuck Aug 2013 #46

Very instructive. Proud to be a member of the far left. MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #48

Indeed . . . markpkessinger Aug 2013 #49

I'm just glad they dropped that "Libertarian right" bullshit. But even they didn't believe it for Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #50

Anything not dead center or center right is the "Far Left" to some people here Autumn Aug 2013 #52

and centrist Democrats burnodo Aug 2013 #61

My heros are RFK FDR and MLK gopiscrap Aug 2013 #53

OK, but FDR was absolutely hammered from the populist left of his day Recursion Aug 2013 #64

As he should have been Hydra Aug 2013 #74

Well, after being a Paulite Libertarian for these past few weeks, QC Aug 2013 #60

So, here's the thing. Both parties' "bases" are on the right of their coalitions, currently. Recursion Aug 2013 #63

This is what it looks like: joshcryer Aug 2013 #78

Based on today's definition Go Vols Aug 2013 #72

According to "loyal Democrats" who make Nixon look like a pinko? LeftyMom Aug 2013 #73

The self-described "centrists" are the right-wing of the party. For some reason, Marr Aug 2013 #77

A++++ ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #80

Well said! felix_numinous Aug 2013 #83

Centrists are NOT and NEVER have been "a halfway point between far left and far right" Dragonfli Aug 2013 #89

You're absolutely right-- the reality is something that would never, ever sell if they Marr Aug 2013 #90

+1,000,000 nt LWolf Aug 2013 #91

Du is not now nor ever has been representative of the Democratic base...While progressives have Rowdyboy Aug 2013 #81

It wouldn't be so strange if felix_numinous Aug 2013 #84

The "Democratic Base" Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #85

Those among us who consider themselves 3rd party or no-party progressives have never pnwmom Aug 2013 #86

Anyone who says that the Democrats are a party of the extreme left Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2013 #87

Willy, it was pointed out to me on my own thread LWolf Aug 2013 #88

In matters of conscience, the law of majority has no place. - Gandhi Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #92

I'm a far-left radical, supporting such things as Social Security and Medicare for All. Scuba Aug 2013 #93

The Democratic base is not 'far left'. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #94

My Point Is... That Those Of Us Who Supported JFK, RFK, MLK, McGovern... WillyT Aug 2013 #95

I'm with you, WillyT! Enthusiast Aug 2013 #96