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Fire Walk With Me

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Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:54 PM Aug 2013

People Who Got Shorter Sentences Than Chelsea Manning: Spies Selling Secrets To Russians etc... [View all]

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People Who Got Shorter Sentences Than Bradley Manning: Spies Selling Secrets To Russians & Active Terrorists
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130821/18434224275/people-who-got-shorter-sentences-than-bradley-manning-spies-selling-secrets-to-russians-active-terrorists.shtml


Take, for example, the case of David Henry Barnett, a CIA agent who directly sold secrets to the Russians, including but not limited to outing around 30 active CIA agents to the KGB. Oh, and at the urging of the KGB, he also tried to get a job on Capitol Hill in order to get access to more secrets. He was eventually caught and charged with espionage in 1980... and received an 18 year sentence. Got that? Directly sell the identity of CIA agents to the KGB and you get about half the time that Manning got, not for revealing the identity of any intelligence agents, but basically for embarrassing the State Department and the military. That doesn't seem right.

Okay. And how about people, including Americans, who actively tried to hurt America? Remember, Manning made it quite clear his goal was to help America. But that's not true for these five people who joined the Taliban or teamed up with terrorists working on plans to attack America. Those people actively wanted to harm America. And they got shorter sentences.

David Hicks: An Australian national who was captured fighting alongside the Taliban and sent to Guantanamo Bay prison in 2002, Hicks plead guilty to material support for terrorism in a Gitmo military commission in 2007 and was sentenced to seven years confinement. That sentence was reduced to nine months given time already served.

John Walker Lindh: Lindh was convicted of a slew of terrorism and conspiracy charges in 2003 for fighting with the Taliban against the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan. He was sentenced to 20 years in prison.


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Can there be any doubt now that the Manning trial was simply our Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #1
I fully agree with you gopiscrap Aug 2013 #19
k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Aug 2013 #2
How many of those were serving members of the armed forces subject to the UCMJ? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #3
Good point, and a good reason to stay out of the armed services! n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #4
The people responsible for the abuses at Abu Ghraib got shorter sentences. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #9
The people actually responsible for Abu Ghraib were never tried at all. N/T Just Saying Aug 2013 #27
As we called it in my day-The Uniform Code Of Marsupial Justice hobbit709 Aug 2013 #13
Let's see, we have William Calley .. I won't go into it but you can read it yourself YOHABLO Aug 2013 #25
Jonathan Pollard was sentenced to life without parole. NaturalHigh Aug 2013 #5
Manning didn't pass secrets to the enemy for profit, though. KoKo Aug 2013 #30
He released over 700,000 documents... NaturalHigh Aug 2013 #34
He didn't "consort" to spy on us for another country or take money." eom. KoKo Aug 2013 #35
Most get life zipplewrath Aug 2013 #6
The Marine Haditha murderers. Catherina Aug 2013 #7
But they were Amur-kens! Fighting for our raht... burnodo Aug 2013 #16
Recommend....that was horrendous...and it should have gotten attention and KoKo Aug 2013 #31
That's because it isn't about justice, JoeyT Aug 2013 #8
Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Scuba Aug 2013 #11
I personally wonder if Hicks and Lindh were simply victims of politics: they may both just have been struggle4progress Aug 2013 #10
This isn't about justice, this is about sending an intimidating and punitive message myrna minx Aug 2013 #12
It's even more chilling to see those that applaud it. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #14
Pssst... It's Chelsea Manning. KamaAina Aug 2013 #15
Oh bloody hell. Cut-and-pasted the title and obviously wasn't thinking. Will edit. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #21
^ Wilms Aug 2013 #17
Geez people, FairWinds Aug 2013 #18
Outed a CIA Agent..but, he's part of the "Ruling Class." n/t KoKo Aug 2013 #32
Then there were the Rosenbergs... classof56 Aug 2013 #20
Rebel "Prez" Jefferson Davis got 2 yrs... charlives Aug 2013 #22
The US Government has made out that Manning's was ''the Largest Loss of Secrets Evah'' Octafish Aug 2013 #23
POLICE STATES generally don't like law-abiding citizens or whistleblowers. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #24
Couldn't agree more. You play by their twisted rules .. or you're squashed. YOHABLO Aug 2013 #26
Its almost as if there is some kind of order... napoleon_in_rags Aug 2013 #28
k&r toby jo Aug 2013 #29
Lt. Calley served 1 day in Leavenworth and 3 years house arrest. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #33
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