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Union Scribe

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31. There are a lot of things going on here

Sun Feb 26, 2012, 07:23 PM

Feb 2012

and while they all intersect at certain points, I'm not convinced in a causal relationship amongst them.

1. Of course we should leave. We have no place there and never did, but...
2. the Koran is a physical object, and people willing to kill others over a replaceable object are pretty much always wrong. In fact I can't think of a situation where that's something I can muster sympathy for. I know it's logical to conclude it can't be just because of the books being burned, but that really does seem to be the case. Consider the Dutch cartoons. Some people really will carry out mayhem over such a slight, and...
3. comments about Islam here are more an indicator of the deliberately intolerant nature many here have toward any religion versus anything specifically about US policy overseas or this controversy in particular, or even ethnocentrism.

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The demonization of Muslims, now in our new, Democratic flavor. [View all] MadHound Feb 2012 OP

FUBAR actions in a FUBAR lost war. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #1

Gotta love the fomenting of anger towards Muslims fascisthunter Feb 2012 #2

But what about the oil pipeline? Yooperman Feb 2012 #3

Dumb mistake by a very small number of people. Don't overgeneralize. RBInMaine Feb 2012 #4

Except that this "dumb mistake" has been repeated time and again MadHound Feb 2012 #5

Invading Iraq was one of the DUMBEST mistakes fascisthunter Feb 2012 #6

The problem is the justification and defense loyalsister Feb 2012 #8

I disagree partially. Jack Sprat Feb 2012 #7

Look at the religious right in this country, MadHound Feb 2012 #9

As usual, you are exaggerating the case. Jack Sprat Feb 2012 #20

Muslims do not make a "habit" of murdering their daughters either... The Midway Rebel Feb 2012 #37

You forgot the Crusades. GeorgeGist Feb 2012 #49

do you know what islamaphobia is? La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #11

Islamophobia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jack Sprat Feb 2012 #40

Again, you are dealing in assumptions and implications MadHound Feb 2012 #42

I think arguably our Christian base would act as crazy if a foreign country was occupying them. JNathanK Feb 2012 #44

"The Moslems are not angels in their treatment of women SomethingFishy Feb 2012 #12

The only real irony is that to many Democrats it's fine to criticize "Christianity" but verboten to Fortran Feb 2012 #14

Good point. Jack Sprat Feb 2012 #21

As a Democrat and one who is flabbergasted by the Koran-burning riots, and a Christian, too Zalatix Feb 2012 #24

well put, thank you. uppityperson Feb 2012 #33

Oh I see so it's wrong to call out hypocrisy... SomethingFishy Feb 2012 #25

Democracy has no room for a holy book. That's theocracy. boppers Feb 2012 #10

Gee, tell that to the millions of Christians in our own country MadHound Feb 2012 #16

We allow burning of bibles. It's a bit different. boppers Feb 2012 #26

Yes, but we're not talking about actions in the US, but actions in Afghanistan MadHound Feb 2012 #29

The Koran is not a country. boppers Feb 2012 #47

Madhoud, you don't have any legal or moral Jack Sprat Feb 2012 #28

Yes, but unlike US forces, I don't blow entire countries, or even individuals, to hell and gone MadHound Feb 2012 #30

and to that one argument, Jack Sprat Feb 2012 #38

Gee, I don't see you standing behind me, MadHound Feb 2012 #39

No. No you don't. Jack Sprat Feb 2012 #41

Again, you are dealing with assumptions MadHound Feb 2012 #43

Your magical powers have been exposed pinboy3niner Feb 2012 #45

So very glad you put it in type Jack Sprat Feb 2012 #46

How is the accidental burning of a "holy" * book cultural insensitivity? Fortran Feb 2012 #13

Wow, thanks for proving my point MadHound Feb 2012 #17

I don't look at everything and everyone in binary terms. There are times when a Republican is right Fortran Feb 2012 #18

There are times when a Republican is right MadHound Feb 2012 #19

Yeah, well, I guess I should just embrace a religion that thinks I as a gay man should be hanged. Fortran Feb 2012 #23

And what religion are you talking about, Islam or Christianity? MadHound Feb 2012 #27

American evangelicals were behind the push in Uganda for capital punishment for gay people... markpkessinger Feb 2012 #52

A mistake? Like Oops I accidentally threw your book SomethingFishy Feb 2012 #22

Well, it sure is a convenient excuse... Fortran Feb 2012 #15

I honestly don't care if we accidentally offend religious fanatics, of any stripe. Fuzz Feb 2012 #31

Yeah, but after a decade plus in country, MadHound Feb 2012 #34

There are a lot of things going on here Union Scribe Feb 2012 #31

I agree with you about the Quran simply being an object MadHound Feb 2012 #35

No doubt there. Union Scribe Feb 2012 #36

Yeah, not be blatantly fucking stupid. TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #48

Perhaps we should occupy more religious countries Robb Feb 2012 #50

The Koran is like any other religious text Taverner Feb 2012 #51