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55. Are you dreaming? Little plastic parts are not going to rebuild the collapsing biosphere.

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:22 PM

Aug 2013

They are not going to get "everyone.. .everything they want",. this is a strange materialistic dream, that does not even begin to address a plethora of human issues. Sorry, I just don't see the need for more corporate controlled tech. that ignores the natural world we are a part of and further damages the systems we are embedded inside.

"keep begging the powers that be"? No, who said anything about begging anyone, we are working for the things we want to see in the world now. Permaculture, is a simple and appropriate tech. it does not require "electron microscopes" or "super speed lasers". Dirt, seeds, water, and sunlight are amazing complex tech that we already have. Why reinvent the world? There is nothing wrong with it! We only need to adjust people perceptions away from the corporate nightmare and towards the bright green future.

Far from begging, or hoping for some future tech 40, years down the line,. we simply see that what we truly need is already here, and utilize it to fulfill our lives today. The future is now.

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Why It Still Feels Like Recession To 95% Of America [View all] xchrom Aug 2013 OP

Stop telling the truth! Safetykitten Aug 2013 #1

Workers Of America Are Getting Screwed xchrom Aug 2013 #2

It seems capitalism is real good at creating real crappy jobs. fasttense Aug 2013 #3

Oh, but jobs are being created! chervilant Aug 2013 #4

If you don't have a solid full-time job and you can only afford necessities, LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #5

and those of us with solid full time jobs (or any job) Skittles Aug 2013 #39

They are not talking about us, when claiming recession is over. As during the * regime, they are Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #6

And now the Lying Liars are doing exactly as the Lying Liars before them did - truedelphi Aug 2013 #49

"Feels like" hell! It still IS a recession to most people hobbit709 Aug 2013 #7

I used to think of my garden as a hobby, now it's a vital necessity. WCLinolVir Aug 2013 #8

We have built make-shift cold frames from someone's cast off storm windows. AllyCat Aug 2013 #24

Same here. Do you live in Virginia? WCLinolVir Aug 2013 #33

Ha ha! AllyCat Aug 2013 #38

I wondered if it was truly a small world as my neighbor is also building a greenhouse. WCLinolVir Aug 2013 #53

I usually plant the cloves in September, but due to house project, was late AllyCat Aug 2013 #56

Great. I will definitely do some garlic. WCLinolVir Aug 2013 #58

Garlic is particularly resistant to pests and protects many of your other plants. AllyCat Aug 2013 #59

Thank you. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #60

Question from an economics-challenged DUer nxylas Aug 2013 #9

Nominal is actual (dollar in this case) growth. Real is adjusted for inflation. Lucky Luciano Aug 2013 #23

nominal looks at a number hfojvt Aug 2013 #35

Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Aug 2013 #10

It IS a recession, still SmittynMo Aug 2013 #11

republicans have no interest in bolstering an economy with a democratic President at the helm spanone Aug 2013 #12

You're so wrong about that. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #26

I think they are interested , but they don't know how to Johonny Aug 2013 #32

That is how they keep propping up a bogeyman. WCLinolVir Aug 2013 #34

K&R. The truth is important. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #13

K and R (nt) bigwillq Aug 2013 #14

... xchrom Aug 2013 #15

.... bigwillq Aug 2013 #27

k/r marmar Aug 2013 #16

k&r Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #17

Growth is the WRONG measure,. when you have enough you don't need more. Civilization2 Aug 2013 #18

Resources are a function of technology. TampaAnimusVortex Aug 2013 #28

Plants grow right out of the ground, converting molecules into whatever we need using solar now! Civilization2 Aug 2013 #29

Because that techno fix does a lot more... TampaAnimusVortex Aug 2013 #37

Ah yes, the soon to come,. It is like the bar sign "FREE BEER!", with the small print "tomorrow",. . Civilization2 Aug 2013 #43

Are you serious? TampaAnimusVortex Aug 2013 #54

Are you dreaming? Little plastic parts are not going to rebuild the collapsing biosphere. Civilization2 Aug 2013 #55

No - everything we need isnt here yet... TampaAnimusVortex Aug 2013 #57

This is reality PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #41

I agree... we cannot summer-hazz Aug 2013 #47

Because 95% of Americans bluedeathray Aug 2013 #19

Because 95 % of Americans are irrelevant Snake Plissken Aug 2013 #20

K+R KG Aug 2013 #21

We need a New New Deal. That is, a new economic structure that works for working people. reformist2 Aug 2013 #22

I once heard dotymed Aug 2013 #25

In the long run there is no other way whoiswithme Aug 2013 #30

What did we expect? dickthegrouch Aug 2013 #31

I hear you dickthegrouch Skittles Aug 2013 #40

DURec leftstreet Aug 2013 #36

But, but, but....how can this be? progressoid Aug 2013 #42

K&R As always. Keep getting it out there, all we have on our side is the truth. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #44

And yet JNelson6563 Aug 2013 #45

In my state hotrod0808 Aug 2013 #46

kick Liberal_in_LA Aug 2013 #48

It's the Fukushima of economic recoveries. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2013 #50

During the Cold War the Soviets used to talk about "capitalist exploitation of the workers"... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #51

You know what they call the 99% In DC? blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #52