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magical thyme

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65. oh puleeze. The video shows one small bit of space.

Sun Feb 26, 2012, 09:26 PM

Feb 2012

the ER doctor was with Kennedy when they went to the nurses' station together for permission. He could very easily have been out of the video's very limited range.

I don't see anybody on the limited video images other than one nurse and Kennedy. But the articles quote a second nurse. I guess she's lying too.

And you claim there is a young doctor there in scrubs, but I don't see him on the video stills, so I guess that's a lie too.

Someone upthread claims they were denied permission at the nurses' station, but has yet to provide a link.

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video shows RFK son in scuffle with nurses, they were stopping him from taking 2 day old outside [View all] Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 OP

That would be fantastic if John F Kennedy Jr. whistler162 Feb 2012 #1

oops. Thanks Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #3

Why is the hospital claiming property rights of his baby? morningfog Feb 2012 #2

nurses considered it an abduction. Hospitals are super strict about release from Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #5

It is messed up. It is his kid. morningfog Feb 2012 #7

I don't think so Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #8

THe hospital is liable for the child while it is still admitted Mojorabbit Feb 2012 #15

No one should need a doctors permission to take their own child out. morningfog Feb 2012 #19

That's why hospitals are germ factories. Darth_Kitten Feb 2012 #21

Maybe they should just let more people go, then. morningfog Feb 2012 #39

"I haven't read that she was in any kind of emergency state" jberryhill Feb 2012 #56

Just saying, there has yet to be shown any reason why the hospital should still morningfog Feb 2012 #72

And they are supposed to know it is his and he has that right, how? jberryhill Feb 2012 #54

The hospital doesn't have the right to hold anyone hostage, including a baby. Major Nikon Feb 2012 #31

"A parent has the same rights in regard to their children." jberryhill Feb 2012 #55

That's a completely separate issue Major Nikon Feb 2012 #79

I don't know about this case JonLP24 Feb 2012 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author MikeOlsen Feb 2012 #4

All the more reason to stop him from taking the newborn outside. leeroysphitz Feb 2012 #53

"�I witnessed the incident and I can state unequivocally that the nurses were the only aggressors,� hedgehog Feb 2012 #6

I'm thinking, what kind of professional speaks of his colleagues like this? Darth_Kitten Feb 2012 #22

OK, so shoot me. I trust the nurses on this one. CTyankee Feb 2012 #9

Even new moms don't just pick up the baby and roll out the door Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #11

What do you mean "even new moms," there's no need for sexism. RB TexLa Feb 2012 #23

meaning she's actually the hospital patient who the baby is associated with Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #26

Exactly, thank you. uppityperson Feb 2012 #12

It makes me wonder if he had been drinking and just got aggressive... CTyankee Feb 2012 #16

Or maybe the nurses had been drinking. Maybe that's why that one fell down. RB TexLa Feb 2012 #24

ridiculous! Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #25

YES. Drunken, aggressive, physically abusive nurses are a growing problem Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #30

you left out the sarcasm smilie Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #34

Never used it. Never will. (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #38

Nice. Aren't you special... CTyankee Feb 2012 #57

Totally agree. Kennedy was acting weird. mainer Feb 2012 #37

Child endangerment is probably a stretch. dems_rightnow Feb 2012 #10

Engaging in a shoving match while holding an infant hedgehog Feb 2012 #13

it takes 2+ to have a shoving match magical thyme Feb 2012 #33

I do not think child endangerment is a stretch. aquart Feb 2012 #32

He didn't need to kick anyone Politicalboi Feb 2012 #14

I just hate it that nurses are so disrespected! They are, on the whole, just the best, the most CTyankee Feb 2012 #17

What a stupid move on his part. I can't see any reason why he should think he Arkansas Granny Feb 2012 #18

Hmm..An on-duty doctor was HIS witness... DianaForRussFeingold Feb 2012 #20

Where is this "family friend" on the video?!! mainer Feb 2012 #58

I thought that was Dr. Haydock in scrubs...! DianaForRussFeingold Feb 2012 #71

He looks good for a 62-year-old mainer Feb 2012 #73

Hey if that kid is going to be a bowman... Evasporque Feb 2012 #27

Kicked a nurse in the pelvis? Asshole. (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #28

A Kennedy baby would be a target for kidnappers itsrobert Feb 2012 #29

they stopped at the nurses' station first magical thyme Feb 2012 #35

Stopped at the nurses station and told no. Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #36

if told no, then obviously that changes everything magical thyme Feb 2012 #43

In the hospital, the nurses need to be listened to mainer Feb 2012 #40

I don't think yelling and screaming at a possible abductor makes a baby safer magical thyme Feb 2012 #41

Sometimes yelling and screaming is all you can do to save a baby mainer Feb 2012 #45

security doesn't have to be in sight magical thyme Feb 2012 #49

So the general public has to know all the rules that hospitals follow or suffer the consequences. Mumble Feb 2012 #42

does a two year old really need fresh air? Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #47

does a two year old really need fresh air? Mumble Feb 2012 #48

a meant to say 'two day old" Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #80

A two day old -- no. mainer Feb 2012 #51

Who's Child Is it? Kennedy's or the States? fredamae Feb 2012 #44

It's not clear the nurses knew that was HIS kid mainer Feb 2012 #46

So how did he get possession of his kid in the first place? Mumble Feb 2012 #50

That's a good question, isn't it? The video doesn't show it. mainer Feb 2012 #52

He should have gone to the nurses' station, identified himself, and asked if he could take the baby CTyankee Feb 2012 #61

actually, the 2 doctors DID go to the nurses' station first magical thyme Feb 2012 #64

it doesn't matter if there is no clearance by at the nurses station. Just because he had CTyankee Feb 2012 #68

I don't see Kennedy kick nurse... and I don't agree with news reporters guest that midnight Feb 2012 #59

I saw pictures of it yesterday(kicking nurse). If you look around the net you can find them. nt Mojorabbit Feb 2012 #74

Dr. Haydock graduated in 1979 and has practiced for 33 years mainer Feb 2012 #60

so now you're calling the ER doctor a liar magical thyme Feb 2012 #62

Yep. Because there's video evidence he didn't see anything. mainer Feb 2012 #63

oh puleeze. The video shows one small bit of space. magical thyme Feb 2012 #65

There are two nurses there mainer Feb 2012 #66

from the articles I read, the nurse fell out of the stairwell magical thyme Feb 2012 #67

Oh, hush! You can't contradict a doctor! Especially a male dr. They are always right! CTyankee Feb 2012 #70

Stupid behavior from a guy who grows up feeling entitled. Bonobo Feb 2012 #69

Well, the version I read said that he got permission from one nurse EFerrari Feb 2012 #75

I could imagine that happening, BUT Bonobo Feb 2012 #76

Yeah, that's out of control. nt EFerrari Feb 2012 #77