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In reply to the discussion: Energy Firm CAUGHT Breaking Down Door to INSTALL Smart Meter! [View all]greenman3610
(3,959 posts)34. this is bullshit being spread by people who do not have your best interest in mind
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/08/25/2518361/iphone-electricity-refrigerator/
For 14 years, the coal industry has been pushing the myth the Internet is an energy hog. For 14 years, I (and other scientists) have been debunking that myth. Last week, I promised a detailed debunking of the iPhone=Refrigerator calculation from Dr. Jon Koomey, the worlds foremost authority on the electricity consumption of the Internet. Here it is JR.
Last week, several friends alerted me to a claim that the iPhone supposedly uses as much electricity as two refrigerators when you count the energy needed to make it, run it and power the behind-the-wall equipment to deliver data to the device. Discussion of the original report (The Cloud Begins with Coal, hereafter CBC) showed up on the Breakthrough Institute site, Time Magazine Online, MSN News, the Huffington Post, MarketWatch, and Grist, among others (with most focusing on the comparison between a smart phone and one refrigerator).
When I heard this claim, it took me back to the year 2000, when Mark P. Mills and Peter Huber first made the claim that the networking electricity for a wireless Palm VII exceeded the electricity for running a refrigerator (1000 to 2000 kWh, they claimed, the lower bound of which was a bit higher than the average installed base for US fridges at that time). It didnt sound plausible, and so I and some colleagues investigated, finding that Mr. Mills and Mr. Huber had overestimated the electricity needed to feed data to a wireless Palm VII by a factor of 2000 (Koomey et al. 2004).
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They actually measure your power usage rather than guessing like old meters do
Recursion
Aug 2013
#2
One Would Think That This New Technology With Smart Meters Would Lower Bills....
global1
Aug 2013
#9
Old electromechanical induction meters are actually pretty primitive in design.
NYC_SKP
Aug 2013
#14
this is bullshit being spread by people who do not have your best interest in mind
greenman3610
Aug 2013
#34
My main AC is on all day in the summer. My window unit in the office is on 12 hrs a day.
hobbit709
Aug 2013
#38
My home energy company uses Smart meters. My bills are small. I am among it's
bluestate10
Aug 2013
#70
Well they don't, of course. Often, the old meters are under-reporting actual usage.
NYC_SKP
Aug 2013
#64
I don't know about the UK, but my local Smart Meters are money savers, good things.
NYC_SKP
Aug 2013
#3
Funny because when there was an outage and I was out of state I got an automatic phone call.
NYC_SKP
Aug 2013
#20
The Obama twist is new. I was reading this type of stuff back when Shrub was "Administerating"
TalkingDog
Aug 2013
#48
We've got our electric bill on a "monthy" budget, estimate rates by usage of previous year....
a kennedy
Aug 2013
#32
holy crap.......that was the first thing we did when we bought our home 13 years ago
a kennedy
Aug 2013
#65
Right. Cause the gov't and corps would NEVER abuse their spying power. Can't happen!
Romulox
Aug 2013
#53
The Infowars articles are instructive because they use the same BS talking points.
NYC_SKP
Aug 2013
#62
These companies that install the smart meters should have their allowable rates reduced
MNBrewer
Aug 2013
#49
Compared to the generations old analog designed meters, they are more accurate. Also...
NYC_SKP
Aug 2013
#63
Why do you have the usage spike at 4pm? I am a top 10 user, I love Smart meters.
bluestate10
Aug 2013
#72
That's not my graph, I just pulled it off the net. Here's a screen cap of my meter:
NYC_SKP
Aug 2013
#73