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Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
18. I read the Amnesty International Report.
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:02 PM
Aug 2013

Allow me to quote part of what you quoted.

Amnesty International has gathered information from survivors of the chemical weapons attack believed to have taken place in the Eastern Ghouta region, east of the capital Damascus, on 21 August, as well as doctors who examined those killed and treated those affected by the contamination. We have also shared this and other information about the alleged chemical release with specialists in chemical agents. Based on this research and the analysis by specialists, Amnesty International believes that it is highly likely that chemical agents contaminated several neighbourhoods in the adjacent towns of Zamalka and Ain Tarma in Eastern Ghouta.


They have no first hand information. They are answering the questions based upon reports. Because the lack of first hand knowledge which they admit, they use words like appears, likely, probable, and other words that stop short of the definitive word fact.

Fact is an undeniable piece of evidence. Truth is the story that links those pieces of evidence. Fact, Dinosaur bones have been recovered. Therefor the truth is that dinosaurs once existed. Do you see what I mean? Now for the lunatic fringe, the Fact of Dinosaur bones being found, is coupled with the fact of dinosaurs not being in the Bible, so their truth is that the bones were planted by Satan to fool us. At least you can agree with them on the fact that the Dinosaur bones were found, even if we can't agree on the truth drawn from it.

To repeat, I am not saying that the chemical warfare attack did not happen. I am saying we don't have the facts, and you supported my contention that the report would be available in two weeks.

He was addressing reporters while U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon was meeting with delegates from the five permanent U.N. Security Council members - Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States - to update them on the U.N. investigation in Syria. Envoys from the five countries gave no details of the meeting to reporters after it ended.

But two diplomats told Reuters that Ban informed the five delegations that analysis of the samples could take up to two weeks.


http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/08/30/syria-crisis-us-idINDEE97T0FI20130830

The testing and identification of the gathered samples will allow investigators to present the evidence so we can conclude what happened with far more accuracy than we think, we believe, we consider it highly likely. Before we go to war, and start dropping bombs, shouldn't we know with as much certainty as is possible?

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No button for Cheney? MelungeonWoman Aug 2013 #1
Going out on a limb based on rumors that it was an accidental release by rebels. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #2
I read the articles on DU from the Right-wing sites - those rumors? Tx4obama Aug 2013 #9
I wouldn't use them as references. You have to admit, though, it would be an interesting twist. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #16
It's starting to show up in Reuters... Taverner Aug 2013 #28
Who do you believe is responsible, PS? R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #3
Assad. You? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #4
Not sure yet. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #6
Voted "A rebel force", but not nearly 100% sure.... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #5
What evidence would that be? Tx4obama Aug 2013 #13
Apparently, the Syrian Defense Minister was out of the loop, if it was the gov't, he didn't leveymg Aug 2013 #7
That's a long limb to go out on. David__77 Aug 2013 #8
Where are the buttons for the Saudis and Al Qaeda Coyotl Aug 2013 #10
One of the attacks w/ the napalm type chemical that BURNT folks was dropped from a FIGHTER JET Tx4obama Aug 2013 #11
I don't think there's any way for us to know for sure at this point. Blue_In_AK Aug 2013 #12
Follow the money. mia Aug 2013 #14
Correction Savannahmann Aug 2013 #15
Amnesty International on use of chemical weapons in Syria ProSense Aug 2013 #17
I read the Amnesty International Report. Savannahmann Aug 2013 #18
Here's is ProSense Aug 2013 #19
Um MFrohike Aug 2013 #20
Um, what? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #22
Thought it was self-evident MFrohike Aug 2013 #23
I wish you'd read your own links. Savannahmann Aug 2013 #25
Irrelevant. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #21
No, it will not be "irrelevant." ProSense Aug 2013 #24
It won't change the fundamental dynamics there. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #30
I believe it is the governments doing. I take our President at his word. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #26
i say not sure SwampG8r Aug 2013 #27
Who is responsible for drone attacks on civilians? nt HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #29
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