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80. Communications of American citizens are analysed by NSA mostly when in contact with foreigners

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 05:45 PM

Sep 2013

So American citizens are treated very differently than foreign nationals, and the type of information collected and/or analyzed depends on whether the American is in the US or traveling abroad and whether the American is in contact with a foreigner abroad or in the US.

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Greenwald's bombshell news continue [View all] David Krout Sep 2013 OP

Gee, how shocking... not. MADem Sep 2013 #1

Yet, nothing enrages a neodem like US state secrets spied and exposed whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #3

I don't really think it's a secret that the US spies on foreign countries and their leaders Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #4

Were you aware that the NSA was spying on these individuals? David Krout Sep 2013 #6

It has always been my assumption that the NSA and CIA spy on most other countries Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #7

Well, you're not the president of Mexico or Brazil. It looks like they are not too pleased sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #10

Of course they have to act outraged for their public. These are elected officials. Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #15

So All Outrage Is Artificial Outrage - Well I Guess That Obama Does Not Need To Start A War Then cantbeserious Sep 2013 #105

I wonder if Greenwald will report what countries are spying gholtron Sep 2013 #17

Spying on Obama's emails? David Krout Sep 2013 #22

If someone leaks information to him I am sure he will. Just as Wikileaks sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #30

I would like to see a Greenwald expose on arely staircase Sep 2013 #94

You are wasting your keystrokes. They will blindly follow Clapper, Mueller, Alexander, rhett o rick Sep 2013 #84

I know. Who would ever have thought that the 'left' would be so enamoured of sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #85

Shocking, except these are the same posters who take every "right" position RetroLounge Sep 2013 #88

Yes, we now know what has to be done to save the Democratic Party from sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #91

It's a big bus, but gonna get awful lonely when the only ones NOT under it RetroLounge Sep 2013 #93

I dont call any of "them" the left. They are the new conservative Democrats. rhett o rick Sep 2013 #99

I love ridiculous indignant outrage. When they probably do the same. n./t vaberella Sep 2013 #89

'Probably' isn't much of a defense. Do you have anything, as Greenwald has, to show sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #92

Sadly no. vaberella Sep 2013 #112

This thread has a strong whiff of Fail about it. Number23 Sep 2013 #97

That is the NSA's stated mission. It keeps an eye on MineralMan Sep 2013 #19

Well, Brazil is recalling its ambassador, and it's on the front pages of Mexican newspapers. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #8

Of course the media in those countries find it of interest Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #11

They are pretending not to like their emails read! David Krout Sep 2013 #18

I should hope so, considering Kerry discussed this w/Brazil over two weeks ago. MADem Sep 2013 #47

Ya think? Cha Sep 2013 #55

What it is!!! +1000! nt MADem Sep 2013 #58

Bombshell!!!!1111 Cha Sep 2013 #60

Sums it up perfectly! randome Sep 2013 #77

+1. "Repackaging" is right. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2013 #82

Nailed it... SidDithers Sep 2013 #83

As always, Cesca nails it. Number23 Sep 2013 #98

Bingo! sheshe2 Sep 2013 #104

If only they had consulted with Cali_Democrat David Krout Sep 2013 #14

Yes. I did know that the CIA and NSA spy on foreign countries Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #16

Why don't you like to use the word "Presidents"? David Krout Sep 2013 #21

Greenwald is trying to sell books. gholtron Sep 2013 #20

No, the interest is far from fading unless you want it to be that way. sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #33

Google and Microsoft Why Syzygy Sep 2013 #44

The Civil Liberties Union also and I imagine there will be class action suits from sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #75

I see... Spying = A-OK whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #23

If they'd gotten 'em with a simple hack, we'd have to play "fair game." MADem Sep 2013 #52

Ha, such bullshit whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #71

What secret? It's in Wikipedia for god's sake. DevonRex Sep 2013 #66

One wonders why Assange never released the files he had on Russia. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #5

Lol, one wouldn't wonder if one were in possession of the facts: sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #13

Those are classified American diplomatic cables, not Russian Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #106

Yes, and Wikileaks didn't try to hide them in order to protect Russia, as you implied. sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #108

My post attacked wikileaks? Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #109

KittyWampus - simple answer Iliyah Sep 2013 #24

Well, considering he DID release leaks on Russia and he's still alive that would sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #36

Tell that to the leaders of Mexico and Brazil. JDPriestly Sep 2013 #26

Our world has been a mess since the beginning Iliyah Sep 2013 #37

Not for lack of desire--you can be sure of that. MADem Sep 2013 #40

Get off the net. Leave the front lawns of the parks and city halls. JDPriestly Sep 2013 #113

Gentlemen don't read each other's mail. Why Syzygy Sep 2013 #46

They don't read Wikipedia? UKUSA. It's been in Wikipedia for years. DevonRex Sep 2013 #64

What are allies for? They should be proud that we're snooping on them. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #2

That is what NSA is supposed to do -- collect signals intelligence on foreigners FarCenter Sep 2013 #9

The problem is, they the NSA, treats American citizens the same as foreign nationals. RC Sep 2013 #12

Communications of American citizens are analysed by NSA mostly when in contact with foreigners FarCenter Sep 2013 #80

And who is most likely to communicate with foreign nationals? JDPriestly Sep 2013 #114

This is where the outrage lies. Not with the OP's post. vaberella Sep 2013 #90

or old girlfriends, competitors, old friends, childhood rivals Supersedeas Sep 2013 #107

I imagine all countries spy on other countries, but this is about spying on the sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #38

I'm sure Brazil would spy on Obama's personal correspondence if they could. FarCenter Sep 2013 #79

Greenwald's Next Bombshells: Water Is Wet; Bears Shit In The Woods. baldguy Sep 2013 #25

Good point. MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #28

Lol! sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #39

I thought because of the Allende murder gopiscrap Sep 2013 #27

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #29

who? MisterP Sep 2013 #45

Note to St Glenn: Journalists are frequently shot in Mexico, but on the bright side, UTUSN Sep 2013 #31

Huh? The Mexican President shot a journalist? David Krout Sep 2013 #34

Wow, that sounded drunken. Was there a point you were trying to make? Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #59

amazing how supposed supporters of rights and freedoms personally attack and UTUSN Sep 2013 #62

I think the member simply wanted to know what the killing of journalists have to do... David Krout Sep 2013 #68

yeah, flinging the word "drunken" in the proximity of another member UTUSN Sep 2013 #72

I did not understand your post or the point you wanted to make, either. Quantess Sep 2013 #76

Yeah, that'll help your case. Thanks for that. n/t UTUSN Sep 2013 #103

You forgot your sarcasm smilie. pnwmom Sep 2013 #32

NSA defenders will pretend this was sarcasm David Krout Sep 2013 #41

I don't care that the NSA or CIA are spying on foreign countries. pnwmom Sep 2013 #42

Another one who feels uncomfortable using the word "Presidents" David Krout Sep 2013 #48

The operative word is "foreign" not "President." nt pnwmom Sep 2013 #50

Were these individuals suspected of a crime or threatening the security of the US? David Krout Sep 2013 #61

Are these individuals under our laws and protection now? randome Sep 2013 #78

You reacted to my question with another question David Krout Sep 2013 #86

The question is irrelevant since our laws do not apply to other countries. randome Sep 2013 #100

Perhaps not. (Unless you truly believe that all men are created equal and endowed by their JDPriestly Sep 2013 #115

Are you aware of Why Syzygy Sep 2013 #51

No, I don't think we should be killing them or they should be killing us. pnwmom Sep 2013 #56

If Why Syzygy Sep 2013 #63

Spying is also done defensively, and countries that are our allies pnwmom Sep 2013 #65

Is the reason why these Presidents were spied on related to an alliance with bad guys? David Krout Sep 2013 #67

I guess we'll have to wait for Snowden to tell us. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #74

And, after all, they're just following orders. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #53

Nothing helpful to Americans creeksneakers2 Sep 2013 #35

Bingo! nt MzShellG Sep 2013 #49

K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2013 #43

If nations spying on each other deserves "meh", shrug from some people daleo Sep 2013 #54

Exactly. SOP when we do it to others, manhunts and tribunals when it's done to us. n/t whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #69

WHAT?? I CAN'T hear you!!! 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #57

How to win friends and influence people. Savannahmann Sep 2013 #70

+1 n/t Catherina Sep 2013 #73

Power run amuk! Little Star Sep 2013 #111

that kinda sounds like routine stuff Skittles Sep 2013 #81

Doesn't our government spy on all leaders and vice versa? vaberella Sep 2013 #87

Should have.... wildbilln864 Sep 2013 #95

BENGHAZI!! BENGHAZI!! ... No? Now what? Oh, OK ... SYRIA!!! SYRIA!!! Scuba Sep 2013 #96

Not really a surprise as long as there have been governments there's been espionage Arcanetrance Sep 2013 #101

"I bet" isn't news David Krout Sep 2013 #110

Are people that naive? Soundman Sep 2013 #102