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grantcart

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25. There is not a single sentence in the article you link that supports a charge of Obama manufacturing
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 10:28 AM
Sep 2013

evidence.

The point of the article is that Bush's use of Curveball has left skepticism that the President has to deal with:



"One thing is indisputable," Cameron conceded. "The well of public opinion was well and truly poisoned by the Iraq episode and we need to understand the public skepticism."



In fact the article goes to some length to explain that there is little similarity between the two:



Political and international security analysts concede that the conditions prompting Obama to push for punitive strikes on Assad's forces are vastly different this time. Obama, who campaigned against his predecessor's rush to wage costly, faraway wars, has made clear his reluctance to get involved in Syria's nearly 2 1/2-year-old civil conflict, which has taken more than 100,000 lives.

Nor does Obama seek to topple Assad. Though despised by Western leaders and accused of savagery and war crimes, the Syrian autocrat would leave a dangerous power vacuum if he were ousted. That probably would lead to chaotic revenge attacks on Assad's minority Alawite community, sectarian clashes between Shiites and Sunnis, and infighting among the disparate rebel groups, the stronger of which are aligned with Al Qaeda.

This time, unlike the 130,000 coalition troops Bush had massed to invade Iraq, any U.S. strike on Syria would be limited in scope and duration, Obama insisted Friday.

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Kerry has made a fool of himself over this issue. last1standing Sep 2013 #1
His agenda is showing, for sure. n/t Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #2
Kerry has made a fool of himself liberalhistorian Sep 2013 #18
That's absurd G_j Sep 2013 #3
Minor detail. Stop quibbling. Let freedom reign. jsr Sep 2013 #4
That is not what France reported in full. ProSense Sep 2013 #5
If evidence "appears to confirm 1500", why didn't France confirm 1500? David Krout Sep 2013 #8
So you're rejecting that part of the report? ProSense Sep 2013 #13
Woah! Hold on, you went from "appeared to confirmed," to "confirmed" David Krout Sep 2013 #16
"adding that evidence appeared to confirm an estimated 1,500 deaths. " ProSense Sep 2013 #17
Baloney - 281 confirmed means officially confirmed and identified. blm Sep 2013 #19
Provide the names. These are human beings, it is disgusting to see such a tragedy used for political sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #27
At least ProSense Sep 2013 #28
Anyone launching an attack on kids, clusterbombing them, White Phosphorousing them, bombing them, sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #30
"Did Assad do this?" ProSense Sep 2013 #31
So how does the US address the world wide charges of hypocrisy on matters of War Crimes? sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #32
"France has zero credibility on Syria or Libya." ProSense Sep 2013 #36
Why quibble over the exact number? treestar Sep 2013 #6
You assume Assad did it David Krout Sep 2013 #9
That's pretty well established treestar Sep 2013 #12
No, it's not. What IS well established is that there is a big, well funded push.... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #14
This 'evidence' of a chemical attack was manufactured by Obama the same way blm Sep 2013 #20
There is not a single sentence in the article you link that supports a charge of Obama manufacturing grantcart Sep 2013 #25
I know - which is why I stated it the way I did. blm Sep 2013 #37
Can you substantiate that it's "pretty well established" deutsey Sep 2013 #15
From Der Spiegel- please follow link and read whole article. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #24
Thanks deutsey Sep 2013 #26
It is way more likely to happen if Al Queda, who are also suspects with Saudi backing, are not held sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #34
They did at least have the sense to round to the nearest whole number. David__77 Sep 2013 #7
But nothing says "certainty" like three places after the decimal. Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #10
Must confess the figure did sound odd dipsydoodle Sep 2013 #11
"I have in my hand a list of... JayhawkSD Sep 2013 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author proverbialwisdom Sep 2013 #22
Lies like poison gas JEB Sep 2013 #23
Only 1,429? His boss says THOUSANDS! jsr Sep 2013 #29
Everything tells you that this is all for public consumption... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #38
One more BIG question. We do not have enough facts to go to war in this situation. jwirr Sep 2013 #33
In war, truth is the first casualty. - Aeschylus Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #35
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