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cali

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33. Sometimes there is no viable "solution". That's just a fact of life
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 02:21 PM
Sep 2013

One thing I'd certainly like to see happen is a much more robust plan for helping the refugees. btw, not all the refugees support Assad.

I support more pressure on Assad from the U.N.

Approximately a hundred thousand people died before the chemical attack. And not just by the Assad regime. It's a nasty civil war that's turned sharply sectarian.

The reason that a solution is so elusive is that the realistic options are all horrible: The rebels win and get rid of Assad? What happens after that? The civil war continues as the various factions fight one another for power, a potential genocide of the Alawite people and ethnic cleansing of Christians?

U.S. intervention, particularly unilateral intervention- and we stand functionally alone on this with the possible exceptions of France and Turkey- is fraught with peril. It could make the whole bloody mess even bloodier, not to mention further fraying U.S. relations and serious blowback.


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Too bad Obama couldn't devote half of the energy he's been spending on war to get us single payer. jsr Sep 2013 #1
word. KG Sep 2013 #3
There was no "red line in the sand" on single-payer. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #5
+1 leftstreet Sep 2013 #17
They're right whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #2
I found nothing "parody" about Kerry's testimony. ProSense Sep 2013 #4
Of course you didn't. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #8
"Did you believe the same bullshit when it was used to justify Bush's Iraq War?" ProSense Sep 2013 #12
The claims are the same. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #14
And yet John Kerry supported and voted for Bush's war, he repeatedly stated that Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #37
Senators Boxer and Durbin voted against the IWR, but supported the Syria resolution: ProSense Sep 2013 #15
Which tells us what? Just because they're Dems doesn't mean they can't also be sheep. Dawgs Sep 2013 #18
it's no joke nt G_j Sep 2013 #10
You? Who on earth would expect you to do anything but support cali Sep 2013 #13
Your problem ProSense Sep 2013 #16
Probably waiting to here from their donors. Taking politicians at their word is never a good idea. Dawgs Sep 2013 #19
Perhaps a small distinction, but I didn't call him a liar. I said he lied cali Sep 2013 #23
You are simply uninformed. As usual, the ugliest crap comes from those least well informed. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #32
And yet you do not refute nor post a correction you simply lash out Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #38
wow, there's a cogent refutation. I'm certainly far better informed than you kitt cali Sep 2013 #40
Honestly, Obama is the best spokesman for his position. TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #6
So far, the war advertising is chalking up a "No Sale" on the American people. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #7
its NEW! and IMPROVED!! HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #9
The admin's case that "Assad did it" is crumbling fast.... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #11
right, German intelligence just acknowledged it was Assad. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #31
This was so poorly sold, you could almost call it Hydra Sep 2013 #20
Operation Just the Tip Precisely Sep 2013 #22
Stupid or tuned out Precisely Sep 2013 #21
why is anybody surprised? Chaco Dundee Sep 2013 #24
one minute they're lordly World Control, hand-in-glove with the media, defanging and veal-penning MisterP Sep 2013 #25
AND what exactly is your plan for Syria? SoapBox Sep 2013 #26
What has the Arab League suggested? The UN? leftstreet Sep 2013 #27
What's your plan? Union Scribe Sep 2013 #28
Sometimes there is no viable "solution". That's just a fact of life cali Sep 2013 #33
My plan..... sendero Sep 2013 #35
Assad is going to kill a lot more civilians as he gets more desperate. Obama isn't the stupid one. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #29
Both sides will kill a lot more civilians. In any case, Assad will certainly cali Sep 2013 #34
I was very upset when he tied Syria to 9/11 and the Pearl Harbor attacks. JoePhilly Sep 2013 #30
The overselling.. sendero Sep 2013 #36
Boy, did you nail this one, Cali. woo me with science Sep 2013 #39
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