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Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:15 PM Feb 2012

Sorry, Apple, and Apple fans, but that's how it goes. [View all]

There's been a lot of dust being kicked up around here about Apple and its use of Foxconn to make its products. Lots of people have been hating on Apple, or at least pointing them out for heavy criticism. Then there are the Apple fans who say that this is unfair, because many other companies use Foxconn to make their products as well.

The problem here is, the criticisms of Apple are right. But so are the criticisms being aimed by Apple fans at all the other companies whose indentured Chinese workers have suicide nets installed to keep them from jumping to their deaths. So why are so many people singling out Apple?

Critics are singling out Apple because Apple is the most prominent company. That and they were the ones that got publicly shamed over it. Apple was the first one to get the Foxconn spotlight put on them and they became the poster corporation for offshoring to companies whose workers commit suicide under their crappy work conditions.

No, it's not fair. But the truth is, someone has to be made an example of. All companies that send their work overseas need to be highlighted and driven out of business if they won't return their jobs to America. These maddeningly arrogant and greedy corporations need to be put back in their place or put out of business and replaced by companies who hire workers in the country where they're selling to. All of them, not just Apple.

However some company has to be chosen to be made an example of. Sometimes it's the most egregious offender, which is probably NOT Apple. But sometimes it's the most prominent one, which probably fits Apple, if one goes by the company's net worth.

As for me, I prefer to approach the issue fairly. I want all companies that outsource to Foxconn to get humiliated and shamed, then boycotted and driven out of America. Make an example of all of them; and then make an example of everyone ELSE who outsources American jobs and who didn't get the message the first time around. So, for me, it ain't just about Apple.

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That's just how it is. Some one, or in this case some company, is going to be made the example. jillan Feb 2012 #1
Indeed, people need to focus their anger on one target. Zalatix Feb 2012 #2
that might work if they were not already there nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #31
The thing about Apple is that they don't need cheap labor to make a profit. wilsonbooks Feb 2012 #3
It's not about money. Apple has plenty. xenie Feb 2012 #14
Actually, you're all mostly wrong frazzled Mar 2012 #26
That argument they use is total bullshit. Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #30
You said "synergy." WilliamPitt Mar 2012 #32
Evidence of short term memory. Jakes Progress Feb 2012 #16
Hey, who ever said taking the high road is easy. Pholus Mar 2012 #19
More "common wisdom" Jakes Progress Mar 2012 #22
Targeting Apple is just a cheap stunt? You've just agreed with me that the FLA is a sham then. Pholus Mar 2012 #27
Play your games. Jakes Progress Mar 2012 #28
You're right. I thought I started neutral but I have BECOME a "hater." Pholus Mar 2012 #33
This thread wasn't supposed to be the inane Jakes Progress Mar 2012 #37
Oooooh, such a good try, but not quite. Pholus Mar 2012 #39
Made in U.S.A. not more expensive--Apple not so good any more xenie Mar 2012 #21
You are operating on bad information. Jakes Progress Mar 2012 #24
His ideas on how much it costs to make things here are correct. YOU are uninformed. Zalatix Mar 2012 #42
Allstate has been outsourcing to a company called Genpact in New Delhi derby378 Feb 2012 #4
You make an example of the worst offenders. Which is more important, the bankers, or the... joshcryer Feb 2012 #5
Nope. uberblonde Feb 2012 #6
The most odius thing? Every evil news story about Apple? Stocks go up. joshcryer Feb 2012 #8
As the outsourcing wave started that started too. Pholus Mar 2012 #20
I thought you were going to mention their vulnerability now AnotherDreamWeaver Feb 2012 #7
That's kinda petty. Windows has been vulnerable forever. Linux is also potentially vulnerable. Zalatix Feb 2012 #9
ANY computer that connects to the outside world is vulnerable. hobbit709 Mar 2012 #35
If there's so many more PCs than Macs, how come Apple is so prominent? saras Feb 2012 #10
Apple is a big player in the mp3 player market, the tablet market and the cell phone market. Zalatix Feb 2012 #11
Apple didn't back out of the PC market Art_from_Ark Feb 2012 #12
The problem is by attacking Apple you're attacking the company that's doing the best jeff47 Feb 2012 #13
Hardware vs software -- Apple's done us wrong xenie Feb 2012 #15
Microsoft's hardware is built by Foxconn jeff47 Feb 2012 #18
Microsoft has less software than Apple xenie Mar 2012 #23
MS is a bad company, but the problem here is Dell, and HP, and Sony and . . . Jakes Progress Feb 2012 #17
But people make good money by investing raouldukelives Mar 2012 #25
And THAT includes nearly every dollar in our retirement funds. saras Mar 2012 #29
Then "our" retirement funds are poisoned. Zalatix Mar 2012 #38
Apple rips off people on their pricing. hobbit709 Mar 2012 #34
They're paying for the marketing that's used to suck them in maximusveritas Mar 2012 #41
One bad Apple ... GeorgeGist Mar 2012 #36
.. mdmc Mar 2012 #40
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