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Xithras

(16,191 posts)
14. Well, I can base it on a lifetime of backcountry hiking.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 12:52 PM
Sep 2013

As long as there have been parks and people hiking in them, there have been people carrying firearms with them. How many and what kind really varies by park and location. Shenandoah? I'd be shocked if 1 in 100 backcountry hiking groups were armed. Muir? 1 in 10,000 tops. Yellowstone and Yosemite? The number is more like 1 in 5. Denali or Wrangell? It's probably safe to say that the majority of backcountry hiking groups have at least one armed person in their party.

Ask any park ranger. The presence of firearms has long been an open secret, and they existed under the assumption that an unseen, unheard, and secured firearm isn't going to harm anybody. If the rangers see it, or hear it, you're going to jail simply because you've either pulled it out or failed to properly secure it, and you've become a danger.

And yes, I've carried on more than one backcountry hike. I've never needed to use it, but I've been close enough to predators to realize that there's a real risk.

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Hmmm. yesphan Sep 2013 #1
It is confusing. A better word might have been "controlled" by her father. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #2
Hmmm... 2naSalit Sep 2013 #3
The Feds will handle this as the park existed before any of the states were founded. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #4
Yes, there were a lot of guns in the parks before they were legalized. Xithras Sep 2013 #6
You're the first to make a cogent argument tying the amendment to people's action, Zithras. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #9
there are tons of good arguments mikeysnot Sep 2013 #12
Agreed 2naSalit Sep 2013 #15
Except there hasn't been a reported shooting in the Park in over forty years UNTIL Bandit Sep 2013 #16
That 2010 amendment was one of the more cowardly things Congress ever did... joeybee12 Sep 2013 #5
I agree it was pointless. I don't think, however, that the amendment caused this girl's death. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #7
I think some gun owners would think twice... joeybee12 Sep 2013 #8
As Xithras so eloquently explained, the amendment invites carelessness. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #10
Yup, you'd keep it hidden; this guy had it out in the open...nt joeybee12 Sep 2013 #11
"I think guns have been going into parks as long as there have been guns and parks," mikeysnot Sep 2013 #13
Well, I can base it on a lifetime of backcountry hiking. Xithras Sep 2013 #14
... 2naSalit Sep 2013 #17
"TeeVee edumacation is a dangerous thing." is really uncalled for in this discussion. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #18
Lol. Xithras Sep 2013 #19
I agree with points made here 2naSalit Sep 2013 #20
Her name was Ella Marie Tucker. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #21
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