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43. Alleged:

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:06 PM

Sep 2013

Sources said that some time after the three other football players entered the room, objects were used to penetrate the victim, though it is not clear which defendants took part in this act. During the alleged assault, according to sources, Vandenburg took pictures and video on his phone, and later sent four individuals the graphic footage.

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An Ugly Rape Case Involving Vanderbilt�s Football Team Could Get Much Uglier [View all] coldmountain Sep 2013 OP

"alleged victim" sigh (nt) antiquie Sep 2013 #1

until there is an actual conviction on charges, everyone involved is "alleged" nt msongs Sep 2013 #3

Wow. I had no idea. antiquie Sep 2013 #6

Yes, or at least prove a crime occurred Nevernose Sep 2013 #11

I thought they had proof of the crime, antiquie Sep 2013 #25

Alleged: antiquie Sep 2013 #43

If you report it any other way than that, you can be sued. nt stevenleser Sep 2013 #20

I think the usual defence makes a difference. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #38

Crystal Mangum was an alleged victim of the Duke Lacrosse team. pnwmom Sep 2013 #4

But unusual in that respect. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #39

That is true. But the same arguments you make here were made in her case. pnwmom Sep 2013 #40

false rape falls along 2-3%. along with all other crimes. interesting point in your post above. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #41

I think you claim far more confidence than the evidence justifies. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #42

"I was just having a little fun!" chervilant Sep 2013 #2

Rape is a terrible crime; but this accusation still remains to be proven in court. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #5

Lots of anonymous sources, no real evidence that Franklin tried to cover it up... Hippo_Tron Sep 2013 #7

As often? I'm afraid I think that your claim, while technically accurate, is probably misleading. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #12

Considering the overwhelming number mythology Sep 2013 #13

It is odd that you substitute 'socio-economic status' for the '4.0 and high SATs' the other poster Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #33

Equals, no, but there's correlation. Not sure it's relevant here, though. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #37

Show me evidence to the contrary... Hippo_Tron Sep 2013 #53

Failure to report the incident...of which he was aware...is going to be the basis msanthrope Sep 2013 #14

I don't see how in this case. Sissyk Sep 2013 #27

The surveillance tape isn't the issue...it's the other media evidence. Apparently msanthrope Sep 2013 #45

Well, it may happen, I guess. Sissyk Sep 2013 #48

This is the first article I've seen trying to place Sissyk Sep 2013 #26

that is how i have read it. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #29

Interesting once again the priveledged gopiscrap Sep 2013 #8

BTW Welcome to DU gopiscrap Sep 2013 #9

Thank you coldmountain Sep 2013 #10

There's video that will become public soon. Let's see who is smart msanthrope Sep 2013 #15

a rape video coming out for public viewing? well, as long as we are all entertained, ... seabeyond Sep 2013 #16

Video from the hallway security camera, I would assume. tammywammy Sep 2013 #17

let us hope. that is all. presonally, sounds to me like people are handling this much more seabeyond Sep 2013 #18

I wouldn't be too sure of that. in particular the ancillary charges didn't get laid because msanthrope Sep 2013 #22

I'm not sure about that, tammywammy. Sissyk Sep 2013 #28

Evidence tends to be public. And why shouldn't it be public? nt msanthrope Sep 2013 #19

why shouldnt the degradation and abuse and rape of an unconscious girl be made for everyones view? seabeyond Sep 2013 #21

I think it should be handled as all other evidence of other crimes is handled. msanthrope Sep 2013 #23

this is NOT like all other crimes. so the lawyer in you would know what an asinine argument seabeyond Sep 2013 #24

+1 JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #32

Seabeyond... as a woman who speaks for other women, do msanthrope Sep 2013 #44

video to become PUBLIC soon. now, if you were not talking public public, but court public, seabeyond Sep 2013 #47

As the article indicated, in 2 weeks there is a court hearing. Court. Open to msanthrope Sep 2013 #49

Ugh Stargazer09 Sep 2013 #30

That poor young woman is heroic for staying at the school to finish her degree. seabeyond Sep 2013 #34

Yet they took back Marcus Dixon's full football scholarship after he was released from prison. RiffRandell Sep 2013 #31

That wasn't Vanderbilt. n/t Sissyk Sep 2013 #35

Wiki disagrees. KamaAina Sep 2013 #46

My bad!! Sissyk Sep 2013 #51

This case appears to be a situation Jenoch Sep 2013 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Sissyk Sep 2013 #50

+1 Sissyk Sep 2013 #52