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Xithras

(16,191 posts)
19. Lol.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:18 PM
Sep 2013

Unlike most backcountry ignorant city dwellers, I actually grew up in rural California in mountain lion and boar country, so yes, I do know what "real risk" is. I've also stood less than four feet from a hungry black bear in the Sierra National Forest with a gun in my hand, and I didn't shoot it because I knew it's interest was in another hikers backpack, and not in any of the hikers in our party. Would I shoot a bear, wolf, or cougar that was actively trying to attack me or another hiker? Yes. Would I shoot an animal that is simply looking for food, or bluff charging to keep hikers away from its young? Absolutely not. Before the Coburn amendment, people who didn't know the difference went to prison.

The Coburn amendment has unquestionably increased the number of Discovery channel educated citified yahoos who DON'T know the difference, which is one of the reasons that I'd like to see it repealed.

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Hmmm. yesphan Sep 2013 #1
It is confusing. A better word might have been "controlled" by her father. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #2
Hmmm... 2naSalit Sep 2013 #3
The Feds will handle this as the park existed before any of the states were founded. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #4
Yes, there were a lot of guns in the parks before they were legalized. Xithras Sep 2013 #6
You're the first to make a cogent argument tying the amendment to people's action, Zithras. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #9
there are tons of good arguments mikeysnot Sep 2013 #12
Agreed 2naSalit Sep 2013 #15
Except there hasn't been a reported shooting in the Park in over forty years UNTIL Bandit Sep 2013 #16
That 2010 amendment was one of the more cowardly things Congress ever did... joeybee12 Sep 2013 #5
I agree it was pointless. I don't think, however, that the amendment caused this girl's death. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #7
I think some gun owners would think twice... joeybee12 Sep 2013 #8
As Xithras so eloquently explained, the amendment invites carelessness. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #10
Yup, you'd keep it hidden; this guy had it out in the open...nt joeybee12 Sep 2013 #11
"I think guns have been going into parks as long as there have been guns and parks," mikeysnot Sep 2013 #13
Well, I can base it on a lifetime of backcountry hiking. Xithras Sep 2013 #14
... 2naSalit Sep 2013 #17
"TeeVee edumacation is a dangerous thing." is really uncalled for in this discussion. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #18
Lol. Xithras Sep 2013 #19
I agree with points made here 2naSalit Sep 2013 #20
Her name was Ella Marie Tucker. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #21
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