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Motown_Johnny

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18. OMG! Seriously?

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:51 PM

Sep 2013

Yes, a public option would have been great.. but the idea that not getting it is somehow a huge failure is insane.

The ACA is a huge improvement over what we had. If you have problems with it not being liberal enough (as I do) then blame the blue dog Democrats who would not vote for something more liberal. We didn't get any (R) votes anyways. It was the (D)s from red states who sank the public option.

Reality... deal with it.

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Ended war in Iraq. Set back Iran's nuclear program with Israel's help. Got Osama without a fiasco [View all] Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 OP

Couldn't even get us a Public Option leftstreet Sep 2013 #1

OMG! Seriously? Motown_Johnny Sep 2013 #18

Vermont is experimenting with the Public Option under Obamacare ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2013 #19

good info CD nt flamingdem Sep 2013 #40

You forgot Pony Renew Deal Sep 2013 #33

Pointing out someone's achievements Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #45

What do you expect when Obama surrounded himself with Republicans, DLC types and bu$h holdovers? RC Sep 2013 #2

didn't you already use this heading in another thread? Sheepshank Sep 2013 #27

I probably did. And it is quite true. RC Sep 2013 #35

stuck record doesn't seem to have much room for discussion Sheepshank Sep 2013 #49

Don't let the facts get in the way of revisionist history. RC Sep 2013 #55

do have anything in your arsenal that is unique and not regurgitated clap trap? Sheepshank Sep 2013 #56

Can't defend the truth, huh? Descending into insults and put downs? RC Sep 2013 #58

did you offer any links to support your assertions in the previous posts? Sheepshank Sep 2013 #60

Here's few. RC Sep 2013 #64

again...Obama indicated in his first campaign that he would be appointing across the ailse Sheepshank Sep 2013 #66

You forgot the donuts. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #3

lololol! oh, and bringing the world 2 cute girls and 2 cute dogs Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #5

Supporting Carlyle Group properties Dunkin Donuts and Booz Allen Hamilton. OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #10

huh? Dunkin Donuts is owned by a consortium of private equity firms. Carlyle is one Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #20

Libya has turned into a bit of a hell-scape. Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #4

Yup, like Iraq Victor_c3 Sep 2013 #6

I believe "that country" was already messed up prior to US involvement in bombardment Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #9

Thank you. Skidmore Sep 2013 #12

It was bad. But we made it much worse. Like a 500% increase in murder rates in 2 years. Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #13

so it's Obama's fault that Gaddafi released a bunch of prisoners right before Tripoli fell? Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #14

Mass arrests. Torture. Executions. 5 fold increase in homicide. Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #15

Blame-America-first. Blame-America-always. ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2013 #36

"Libya is a free." - A statement totally ignorant of reality. Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #38

Libya's problems are with violent militias, not a "newly repressive regime" ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2013 #67

Sounds kind of like Iraq Victor_c3 Sep 2013 #16

a dictator is gone at the hands of his own people. they must chart their own peaceful course Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #17

"Anti-war zealots" Seriously? Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #21

there are times war is necessary. that is a fact. not often, but there are times it is morally Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #23

And just because I protest this potential war does not mean I think all war is unnecessary. Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #24

An 0-6 Leave on this post. nt msanthrope Sep 2013 #34

holy hell. someone alerted on that? lol. they are out for blood on me today. Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #39

You've got a big target on your back right now... SidDithers Sep 2013 #41

thank you. I do appreciate it. Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #44

wasn't me. I'll take abuse all day long Victor_c3 Sep 2013 #62

Wanted to extend occupation in Iraq OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #7

more revisionist history Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #11

U.S. Troops Are Leaving Because Iraq Doesn't Want Them There Octafish Sep 2013 #29

buried in all of that is the fact that Obama and team could have worked with Iraqi government Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #30

Right. Like the time Obama repeated the Bush line that Taliban refused to turn over bin Laden. Octafish Sep 2013 #50

He also hit a 3 pointer Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #8

Status of Forces agreement ended Iraq. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #22

A McCain admin would have reneged on that one. Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #25

Yes, I give him credit for sticking to what had already been established. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #26

not really. most average people love to make lists of "broken promises" Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #28

On some issues. Only on some. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #31

Awww... Rex Sep 2013 #32

cool story, bro Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #43

Remember Mitt Romney at the foreign policy debate? BeyondGeography Sep 2013 #37

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #42

Going for number 12? NuclearDem Sep 2013 #46

My post was directed at Romney Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #47

well apparently you have poor aim CreekDog Sep 2013 #48

Damned straight, because DU juries NEVER make head-scratchingly stupid decisions! 11 Bravo Sep 2013 #51

Oh they always do! CreekDog Sep 2013 #54

Wow...dumb and dumber BeyondGeography Sep 2013 #52

You have a strange and unhealthy hobby. morningfog Sep 2013 #53

LOL, cherry pick much? You are really like a comedian. n-t Logical Sep 2013 #57

and he heals the broken hearted, sets the captive free, makes the lame to walk again and taught the Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #59

Absolutely. great white snark Sep 2013 #61

You left out his escalation in Afghanistan. rug Sep 2013 #63

K & R Scurrilous Sep 2013 #65