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In reply to the discussion: dad wears short shorts to teach daughter a lesson [View all]Raine1967
(11,676 posts)27. He didn't teach her a lesson: he slut shamed her
I personally agree with what this counter-argument to what the father did says.
http://www.xojane.com/issues/dad-slut-shames-daughter-daughter-not-impressed
This is about larger cultural problems: the insistence that dads own their daughters' bodies, the belief that young women wearing revealing clothing are slutty and somehow asking for it, the insistence that it's possible to prove your love by reinforcing sexist stereotypes. The belief that young women somehow owe it to society to be ashamed of their bodies.
Modest is hottest, Scott says of his draconian dress code and attempt at forcing Myley to comply. What he doesn't seem to get is that maybe Myley's not setting out to be hot. Maybe she's just wearing shorts because she can, or she wants to, because the weather is hot and she wants to cool down. Maybe she's dressing for herself, not other people. Maybe this is part of her personal style. We have no way of knowing.
Dudes often seem to assume that everyone around them is dressing for their personal enjoyment. Hence, Myley's decision to wear shorts must be about catching the male eye. But what if it's about things going on internally for her, things that have nothing to do with the outside world? Should she be blamed for the fact that the male gaze exploits of objectifies young women like her? Should she be required to cover up because dudes can't keep it together?
What are you telling your children when you blame them for the actions of others? Young women and girls are so often held responsible for what other people do that they tend to internalize the message that they're in charge of other people's actions, feelings, and activities. Anyone who grew up socialized as a woman, as I did, has a very hard time shaking the idea of personal responsibility for things that are totally outside our control; I cringe when people get angry around me because I'm convinced it's my fault, when I get whistled at in the street I blame myself instead of the creep doing the whistling, and so on.
Much more at the link....
Modest is hottest, Scott says of his draconian dress code and attempt at forcing Myley to comply. What he doesn't seem to get is that maybe Myley's not setting out to be hot. Maybe she's just wearing shorts because she can, or she wants to, because the weather is hot and she wants to cool down. Maybe she's dressing for herself, not other people. Maybe this is part of her personal style. We have no way of knowing.
Dudes often seem to assume that everyone around them is dressing for their personal enjoyment. Hence, Myley's decision to wear shorts must be about catching the male eye. But what if it's about things going on internally for her, things that have nothing to do with the outside world? Should she be blamed for the fact that the male gaze exploits of objectifies young women like her? Should she be required to cover up because dudes can't keep it together?
What are you telling your children when you blame them for the actions of others? Young women and girls are so often held responsible for what other people do that they tend to internalize the message that they're in charge of other people's actions, feelings, and activities. Anyone who grew up socialized as a woman, as I did, has a very hard time shaking the idea of personal responsibility for things that are totally outside our control; I cringe when people get angry around me because I'm convinced it's my fault, when I get whistled at in the street I blame myself instead of the creep doing the whistling, and so on.
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my daughter wouldn't have said a word to her father because she wants the freedom to wear what she
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2013
#1
That was my thought. When niece lived with me. My house, my rules, my ok. But then,
seabeyond
Sep 2013
#25
Not a parent, eh? I find it's nearly always more effective to let my daughters come to the right
Ed Suspicious
Sep 2013
#30
I also would question whether you are a parent. Teenage girls just change their clothes
riderinthestorm
Sep 2013
#46
Okay so you're not a parent but think you KNOW how to parent everyone else's kid
riderinthestorm
Sep 2013
#50
as a parent of 3 girls, i find that explaining things to my girls doesn't exactly
ejpoeta
Sep 2013
#76
the "teenage daughter insisted on catting around town in short-shorts"?
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2013
#12
You know, I see that picture and all I can think of is, "please don't smoke that thing, John"
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2013
#58
Maybe this is just me being a GenXer, but my father wore shorts that short ALL THE TIME.
politicat
Sep 2013
#13
I agree. I don't think public humiliation of children and teens is a good parenting tactic
stevenleser
Sep 2013
#42
"I am as embarrassed by you wearing short shorts as you are by me doing the same thing" (nt)
Recursion
Sep 2013
#77
Seems there's another lesson here...it's possible to ignore something you don't like and enjoy
Brickbat
Sep 2013
#80
Many others have said the same thing and I agree. Disgusting rhetoric by Dad
riderinthestorm
Sep 2013
#47