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In reply to the discussion: Face it... Americans are too comfortable with the idea of Fascism. [View all]SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)He's 75% WRONG. And I'll tell you why. I have read the NDAA bill, in it's entirety. It took me days.
First we'll start with the definition of Fascism:
fas·cism   [fash-iz-uhm]
noun
1.
(sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
So how many of these are we already at? Well "forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism" is a given, seeing as OWS has been beaten, sprayed, arrested, and ostracized, for the crime of... not moving when the police tell them to.
A dictator having complete power. Well he's elected so dictator I guess doesn't fit, but having complete power? That is what NDAA 21012 does. Gives complete discretionary power to the President to detain anyone he claims is a terrorist without proof, without showing evidence without a trial, without a lawyer and without a jury.
Emphasizing agressive nationalism? Check. Racism? Well we are getting better about that. Regimenting all industry and commerce? Meh, not even close, matter of fact that is one tenant I would love to see more of.
So we are about 3/4's of the way there already. The more people deny it the easier it will be to hammer in the last nail.
I personally would trust Obama with the discretionary power in the NDAA bill. While I don't think he's going such a great job, I also don't think he's the type to abuse his power to that extent. But what the fuck are we going to do if he loses? What if fucking GinGrinch wins? You want Newt to have the power to call OWS terrorists and lock them up indefinitely?
We may not quite be living in a fascist state yet but anyone who looks close enough will see that the people writing the laws are leaving enough holes so it will be a simple and easy takeover.