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15. Agreed, but if you imagine the TPP is harmless, or even "good", you have to ask yourself

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 09:57 AM

Sep 2013

why it's being negotiated in secret.

We should all check out TradeWatch.org...I first learned of the truly awful TPP from an attorney

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If You Want To Know Why The TPP Is A Terrible Idea, Look At NAFTA's Chapter 11 Here: [View all] WillyT Sep 2013 OP

The approach to this is despicable and the TPP is not an idea that any Democratic president Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #1

+1 Scuba Sep 2013 #3

Didn't you hear? Either Democrat doesn't mean what it used to mean, djean111 Sep 2013 #4

I can't support what I do know about it and I am furious about the deliberate lack of transparency. Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #40

Correct -- Welcome to the End of Representative Democracy & the Beginning of Fascism in America. whathehell Sep 2013 #14

What Democratic president? jsr Sep 2013 #45

Obama, that is the party he signed with. The Demcoratic Party, where about 9 million more people Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #47

excellent. thanks for posting! k&r cali Sep 2013 #2

Anytime... WillyT Sep 2013 #50

K&R! It's like a "Star Chamber"! Dustlawyer Sep 2013 #5

Thank you, WillyT nenagh Sep 2013 #6

You Are Quite Welcome !!! WillyT Sep 2013 #53

Thank You Bill Clinton, for signing that into law. nt Snotcicles Sep 2013 #7

A sad thing is that aired in 2002. nt Snotcicles Sep 2013 #9

he did not just sign it into law hfojvt Sep 2013 #16

NAFTA: Ross Perot and Al Gore Debate 1993, Part 4 of 8 solarhydrocan Sep 2013 #26

I wasn't blaming Democrats. I remember mine and many Snotcicles Sep 2013 #27

I think most of us need a real tutorial on trade treestar Sep 2013 #8

They ARE Bad If They Circumvent A Country's Sovereignty... Or A Country's Constitution... WillyT Sep 2013 #10

I agree. What we also need is a way to keep corporations from circumventing the associated laws. n kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #11

I think too many people confuse needless complexity with necessity. Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #13

Agreed, but if you imagine the TPP is harmless, or even "good", you have to ask yourself whathehell Sep 2013 #15

TTP = NAFTA????????? Cryptoad Sep 2013 #12

More like NAFTA on steroids. thanks for confirming that you know jackshit, honey. cali Sep 2013 #17

Right? truebrit71 Sep 2013 #18

Funny TPP does not even exist yet you know what it is,,,,,,,nt Cryptoad Sep 2013 #20

Sorry, charlie, but the investment arbitration piece has been leaked and cali Sep 2013 #22

leaked?????????: Cryptoad Sep 2013 #31

yes. we live in an age where stuff like this gets leaked, yes it's a fact. sorry, honeypie. cali Sep 2013 #32

We live in world where links are planned for Cryptoad Sep 2013 #36

Well many of these TPP trade agreement deals are already in WTO agreements. fasttense Sep 2013 #33

I am not objecting toanyone opposing the TTP Cryptoad Sep 2013 #35

And I object to dumbassery, anti-intellectulalism, childish taunts, bvar22 Sep 2013 #41

And the price of tea in China is What? Cryptoad Sep 2013 #56

Hey... At Least he Keeps Kicking My Thread... And It's Much Appreciated... WillyT Sep 2013 #57

Hey... At Least He Keeps Kicking My Thread... And It's Much Appreciated... WillyT Sep 2013 #58

So let's guess your point! "The TPP and NAFTA have different letters therefore rhett o rick Sep 2013 #43

I have voiced my point but you were not listening..... Cryptoad Sep 2013 #55

You mean the, "I will support Obama's position on the TPP no matter who gets hurt." rhett o rick Sep 2013 #59

There you go again making up stuff Cryptoad Sep 2013 #60

Prominent politicians and negotiators in poor countries speak out against TPP octoberlib Sep 2013 #19

Thank You For That !!! WillyT Sep 2013 #21

Thanks for your post , WillyT! NT octoberlib Sep 2013 #30

This is OP-worthy woo me with science Sep 2013 #38

Now just hold on a minute. Is it being suggested that the strong countries will take advantage of rhett o rick Sep 2013 #44

I'm not sure what this means What I think is if you get ripped off by some foreign factory order- Sunlei Sep 2013 #23

no, that has zip to do with it. Not even close. cali Sep 2013 #24

ok, not understanding. I do want our country to bring in revenue with world trade. Sunlei Sep 2013 #25

these trade agreement do nothing to help working people. it's all about looking out for the intrests KG Sep 2013 #28

You are entirely correct. It will hurt us all as consumers as it does away with safety regulations whathehell Sep 2013 #49

at what cost? cali Sep 2013 #29

This is about giving corporations dominion over a nation's laws.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #34

Lori Wallach, Trade Attorney for Public Citizen's Global Trade Watch is on Ed Schultz explaining TPP whathehell Sep 2013 #37

+1 It's predatory, plain and simple, woo me with science Sep 2013 #39

Yes, and I just heard Wallach on the radio. She says we need to "spread the word" as the president whathehell Sep 2013 #46

This undermines our democracy. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #42

Very much so, and it's dangerous even beyond that, as it will, among other things, diminish whathehell Sep 2013 #48

Under NAFTA provisions, in the 1990's, the state of Calif was forced to pay truedelphi Sep 2013 #51

Yep... I Remember That... WillyT Sep 2013 #52

Can Congress legally pass a law that strips federal & state courts of their constitution powers? Faryn Balyncd Sep 2013 #54

Reading the fine print, looks like NAFTA wasn't about eliminating tariffs, but sabataging democracy. Faryn Balyncd Sep 2013 #61