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In reply to the discussion: FBI calls half of populace with 9/11 doubts potential terrorists [View all]Turborama
(22,109 posts)60. Where is the original source? SurvivalBlog.com
The stuff that's apparently on the circular is this list of characteristics I'd be surprised they weren't looking out for:

The other stuff about "libertarian philosophies," "Second Amendment-oriented views," interest in "self-sufficiency," "fears of Big Brother or big government," and "Declarations of Constitutional rights and civil liberties." comes from this anonymous article posted on survivalblog.com in 2011.
Beware of Homeland Security Training for Local Law Enforcement, by An Insider
Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011
=snip=
So how does a person qualify as a potential domestic terrorist? Based on the training I have attended, here are characteristics that qualify:
- Expressions of libertarian philosophies (statements, bumper stickers)
- Second Amendment-oriented views (NRA or gun club membership, holding a CCW permit)
- Survivalist literature (fictional books such as "Patriots" and "One Second After" are mentioned by name)
- Self-sufficiency (stockpiling food, ammo, hand tools, medical supplies)
- Fear of economic collapse (buying gold and barter items)
- Religious views concerning the book of Revelation (apocalypse, anti-Christ)
- Expressed fears of Big Brother or big government
- Homeschooling
- Declarations of Constitutional rights and civil liberties
- Belief in a New World Order conspiracy
Another common tactic used in DHS sponsored training is the slander of certain ideologies by linking an erroneous characteristic to a particular group. Here are some examples:
- These groups hold the anniversaries of certain dates as significant such a Ruby Ridge, Waco and Hitlers birthday
- They oppose abortion, support gun rights and are affiliated with the Ku Klux Klan
- They are fearful of big government, espouse support for the Constitution and want to kill police officers
- These groups collect firearms, survivalist books and explosives
- These extremists read books such as Patriots, One Second After and The Anarchist Cookbook
- They are religious zealots, reading the book of Revelation, speak of the second coming of Christ and plan mass murders to summon the end of the world
- These people grow their own food, raise livestock and plot attacks on commercial food production facilities
Full blig post: http://www.survivalblog.com/2011/03/beware_of_homeland_security_tr.html
Wednesday, Mar 30, 2011
=snip=
So how does a person qualify as a potential domestic terrorist? Based on the training I have attended, here are characteristics that qualify:
- Expressions of libertarian philosophies (statements, bumper stickers)
- Second Amendment-oriented views (NRA or gun club membership, holding a CCW permit)
- Survivalist literature (fictional books such as "Patriots" and "One Second After" are mentioned by name)
- Self-sufficiency (stockpiling food, ammo, hand tools, medical supplies)
- Fear of economic collapse (buying gold and barter items)
- Religious views concerning the book of Revelation (apocalypse, anti-Christ)
- Expressed fears of Big Brother or big government
- Homeschooling
- Declarations of Constitutional rights and civil liberties
- Belief in a New World Order conspiracy
Another common tactic used in DHS sponsored training is the slander of certain ideologies by linking an erroneous characteristic to a particular group. Here are some examples:
- These groups hold the anniversaries of certain dates as significant such a Ruby Ridge, Waco and Hitlers birthday
- They oppose abortion, support gun rights and are affiliated with the Ku Klux Klan
- They are fearful of big government, espouse support for the Constitution and want to kill police officers
- These groups collect firearms, survivalist books and explosives
- These extremists read books such as Patriots, One Second After and The Anarchist Cookbook
- They are religious zealots, reading the book of Revelation, speak of the second coming of Christ and plan mass murders to summon the end of the world
- These people grow their own food, raise livestock and plot attacks on commercial food production facilities
Full blig post: http://www.survivalblog.com/2011/03/beware_of_homeland_security_tr.html
Looks like Ralph Lopez is managing to hoodwink quite a lot of people with their dishonest conglomeration. As far as the 2 year old anonymous post on survivalblog.com is concerened, personally I have trouble believing any anonymous source, especially when it's posted on a blog like that.
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FBI calls half of populace with 9/11 doubts potential terrorists [View all]
Ichingcarpenter
Sep 2013
OP
Again, you assume the story we know is not true. You assume a conspiracy.
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"the official conspiracy theory, which you accept as an article of faith."
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Holy shizz! A plane flies into a skyscraper, rupturing its fuel tanks, causing structural damage and
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"who's more likely to be delusional?" - no brainer that - paranoid spooks
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Gravitycollapse
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#127
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GoneFishin
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#155
Lol, I thought you meant the authors of this 'terror list' were delusional, which they are. I
sabrina 1
Sep 2013
#54
Welcome to the United States of Police. Your civil privileges have been permanently revoked.
Nanjing to Seoul
Sep 2013
#10
More like 'potential' threats, you have freedom of speech, but they find it suspicious
HereSince1628
Sep 2013
#25
Yes. All of the surveillance apparatus, from NSA to the FBI, is about control, not protection.
truebluegreen
Sep 2013
#36
Why are truthy articles allowed in GD? The "poll" cited takes you to rethink911.com
snooper2
Sep 2013
#50
Why isn't anybody pointing out that this summary is pure right-wing propaganda?
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Sep 2013
#55
When was the last time a person with 911 doubts blew up a building or took hostages?
BlueStreak
Sep 2013
#56
F.B.I. = Fraternal Brotherhood of Ineptness? Fried Brains Institute? Forgotten By Intelligence??
Ghost in the Machine
Sep 2013
#58
It's for intimidation. They want those who doubt the "official CT version of events" to stfu. nt
Electric Monk
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#75
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The secret police (FBI, NSA, CIA...) are the single biggest threat to this country. Far worse....
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