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Nuclear Unicorn

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78. Your statement assumes its own conclusion.

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 02:40 PM

Sep 2013

Cnspiracists can't even agree amongst themselves nor do any of their proposed theories explain more than what we already know.

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FBI calls half of populace with 9/11 doubts potential terrorists [View all] Ichingcarpenter Sep 2013 OP

Well, they are certainly delusional. longship Sep 2013 #1

I'm sorry, but sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #20

Numbers do not rectify error, it just makes more people erroneous Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #31

So let's rectify the error by opening sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #72

Your statement assumes its own conclusion. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #78

We know planes struck sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #113

Again, you assume the story we know is not true. You assume a conspiracy. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #114

Projection is the act sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #118

"the official conspiracy theory, which you accept as an article of faith." Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #119

Whatever else may be said sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #126

Because a thousand CTers with competing theories said so. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #130

Wasn't that commission appointed by W?..... socialist_n_TN Sep 2013 #140

No, each party get to pick its reps. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #141

Holy shizz! A plane flies into a skyscraper, rupturing its fuel tanks, causing structural damage and struggle4progress Sep 2013 #146

You may not have thought sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #153

I not only think it, I know 911 was an inside job. Eddie Haskell Sep 2013 #87

These folks are under no delusions of a cultural meme as Longship wants us to believe HangOnKids Sep 2013 #92

I thought you were talking about the FBI. Laelth Sep 2013 #22

"who's more likely to be delusional?" - no brainer that - paranoid spooks ConcernedCanuk Sep 2013 #33

Spot on. n/t Laelth Sep 2013 #42

But but but Longship has had conversations with them HangOnKids Sep 2013 #95

LOL. No. Somehow that does not make me feel better. Laelth Sep 2013 #115

Ignoring the laws of physics is delusional. nt GoneFishin Sep 2013 #27

Absolutely seveneyes Sep 2013 #39

Fire produced from jet fuel WILL NOT melt steel. Laelth Sep 2013 #43

"Nor will it significantly weaken said steel." - False. Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #100

Sure, extended exposure to high heat will weaken steel. Laelth Sep 2013 #106

Jet A burns in open air at about 600 degrees. That was enough to auto-ignite... Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #121

Looked like a controlled demolition to me. Laelth Sep 2013 #123

If you want to believe that 6 dump-truck loads of thermite were snuck into the building... Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #124

Yes it did. What terrible luck. Three buildings falling the same way, same day, in the same place, GoneFishin Sep 2013 #131

Precisely. n/t Laelth Sep 2013 #132

No evidence exists to seriously suggest sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #116

Spot on. That's the truth. n/t Laelth Sep 2013 #117

The buildings were designed but not sufficiently tested to withstand the conditions. Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #122

Their structural integrity sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #128

Do you understand what "order of magnitude" means? Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #129

Orders of magnitude are factors of 10. sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #137

The living people in the windows suggests that they did not. nt GoneFishin Sep 2013 #143

Hold a cigarette lighter to a steel fork, get back to me when it melts. nt GoneFishin Sep 2013 #74

What kind of cigarette lighter do you use that approaches the temperatures associated... Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #102

Trust me, I know more about physics than you and there is nothing contradictory... Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #98

What a hoot HangOnKids Sep 2013 #112

Just because I know more does not mean I know all. Maybe you should try that size on... Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #120

Sorry. I don't agree, or believe you. You clearly have not thought it through. And you are wrong. GoneFishin Sep 2013 #125

Watch interviews with those who created Loose Change and then tell me who's behaving immature. Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #127

My conclusions are my own. More information is good. But I knew something was rotten GoneFishin Sep 2013 #134

The towers did not pancake into their own footprint. They smashed into the surrounding buildings. Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #136

If you perceive that a dozen damaged floors will cause the remainder of a hundred story building GoneFishin Sep 2013 #139

It was a progressive collapse. Each floor below giving under greater and greater force... Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #142

Any historical examples of that hypothesis in action on a modern steel building? GoneFishin Sep 2013 #145

Uhhh...they all collapsed on the same day because they were all part of a terrorist attack... Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #155

Lol, I thought you meant the authors of this 'terror list' were delusional, which they are. I sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #54

You suck, fyi. Laelth Sep 2013 #62

YOU ROCK! HangOnKids Sep 2013 #94

Thank you. Laelth Sep 2013 #108

Nothing about guns? Downwinder Sep 2013 #2

Guns make you a Patriot.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #4

I think that covers it jakeXT Sep 2013 #6

I guess the FBi will furnish the guns. As they have been doing. Downwinder Sep 2013 #8

And here I've been told it is all NRA all the time. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #45

But that's only 80,000,000+ folks. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #46

What about the FBI agents and officials noise Sep 2013 #3

"Why does the FBI believe it is ok to obstruct al Qaeda investigations?" JohnyCanuck Sep 2013 #24

Everybody knows it's just a movie jakeXT Sep 2013 #5

I had heard about that pilot episode PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #28

I kinda looks like the FBI might Half-Century Man Sep 2013 #7

Usually, Yes ProfessorGAC Sep 2013 #14

Guerrilla gardening! Celefin Sep 2013 #9

I know right! And I can my veggies and keep a full pantry. OMG! nt Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author Jesus Malverde Sep 2013 #40

Gotta watch deer hunters. Knives AND guns. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #49

Welcome to the United States of Police. Your civil privileges have been permanently revoked. Nanjing to Seoul Sep 2013 #10

And yet many here think it's fine for the NSA to collect data on you? davidn3600 Sep 2013 #11

I was kind of thinking the same thing, maybe a slightly oblique take. Trillo Sep 2013 #84

Threats ? SamKnause Sep 2013 #12

More like 'potential' threats, you have freedom of speech, but they find it suspicious HereSince1628 Sep 2013 #25

I would add the security apparatus knows a more prosaic fact: Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #51

Something tells me that everyone here at DU, even our very own truthers, Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #13

They can start with the 911 commission solarhydrocan Sep 2013 #15

In maybe 30 or 40 years another generation will be willing to look at 9/11. gordianot Sep 2013 #16

What about 'Generation X' (if & when they ever grow up)? Ghost Dog Sep 2013 #32

"Smirk." - xCommander AWOL Bush (R) Berlum Sep 2013 #17

Thought Police. Scuba Sep 2013 #18

Great. Just great. Laelth Sep 2013 #19

Translation: Nearly half of us are capable of thinking for ourselves. RC Sep 2013 #35

Spot on, sadly. Laelth Sep 2013 #37

+1 woo me with science Sep 2013 #44

+2 Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #47

"Critical Thinking" is what the MIC wants to Stamp Out and ...call it... KoKo Sep 2013 #147

thought police barbtries Sep 2013 #21

"Thought Police!" That's a Blast from the Past...! KoKo Sep 2013 #148

MIHOP LIHOP or jail... ileus Sep 2013 #23

Cake or Death? FiveGoodMen Sep 2013 #93

Declarations of Constitutional rights and civil liberties? truebluegreen Sep 2013 #26

This is the part that tripped me out -- Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #34

Yes. All of the surveillance apparatus, from NSA to the FBI, is about control, not protection. truebluegreen Sep 2013 #36

....fears of Big Brother or big government JohnyCanuck Sep 2013 #48

And concerns about guns will evaporate like urine on a hot tank fender. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #52

I have no idea what a hot tank is but the image is vivid nonetheless. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #53

Did ya think the Patriot Act was targeted at AQ-like groups only? Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #29

Freaking wow! malaise Sep 2013 #38

The larger the threat the larger the budget...nt Jesus Malverde Sep 2013 #41

Why are truthy articles allowed in GD? The "poll" cited takes you to rethink911.com snooper2 Sep 2013 #50

Why isn't anybody pointing out that this summary is pure right-wing propaganda? starroute Sep 2013 #55

J. Edger denied for years that there was a Mafia or Organized Crime. Downwinder Sep 2013 #65

There will be no light shone on the coackroaches HangOnKids Sep 2013 #96

When was the last time a person with 911 doubts blew up a building or took hostages? BlueStreak Sep 2013 #56

In fact one of the real terrorists lives right outside truedelphi Sep 2013 #107

Sounds like the DU TOS whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #57

F.B.I. = Fraternal Brotherhood of Ineptness? Fried Brains Institute? Forgotten By Intelligence?? Ghost in the Machine Sep 2013 #58

F.B.I. = Fan Belt Inspectors Downwinder Sep 2013 #67

Fat Balding Idiots rusty fender Sep 2013 #81

"Declarations of Constitutional rights and civil liberties." Vashta Nerada Sep 2013 #59

Where is the original source? SurvivalBlog.com Turborama Sep 2013 #60

so you all are basically declared terrorists BelgianMadCow Sep 2013 #61

Oh, and the 2 links he provides as sources for the circular? OMG! Turborama Sep 2013 #63

First link still up, but url changed johnnyreb Sep 2013 #66

Interesting maddezmom Sep 2013 #73

Cass Sunstein makes a lot more sense. Octafish Sep 2013 #64

Violence is the logical conclusion of conspiracy theories WatermelonRat Sep 2013 #68

I Think Sponge Bob Is On! HangOnKids Sep 2013 #97

LOL's so folks who Ask Questions are prone to doing "Acts of Violence." KoKo Sep 2013 #149

We are all free Glassunion Sep 2013 #69

kick woo me with science Sep 2013 #70

Ah...they've been reading Creative Speculation, it seems. MineralMan Sep 2013 #71

It's for intimidation. They want those who doubt the "official CT version of events" to stfu. nt Electric Monk Sep 2013 #75

I disagree that they are "Potential terrorists", but zappaman Sep 2013 #76

What kind of dumbass whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #82

Good one! zappaman Sep 2013 #83

Why bother? whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #86

yeah, that must be it! zappaman Sep 2013 #91

Ahh but his JFK avatar is so convincing HangOnKids Sep 2013 #99

lol and true La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2013 #88

"libertarian philosophies,"?? KamaAina Sep 2013 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Sep 2013 #101

??? KamaAina Sep 2013 #105

No to both. List keeping sucks and Paul is an asshole. HangOnKids Sep 2013 #109

Then why am I on the trash heap of history? KamaAina Sep 2013 #111

Fucking law enforcement asswipes. gopiscrap Sep 2013 #79

FBI is reaching far Zater Sep 2013 #80

Welcome to the new and improved America under the Patriot Act - TBF Sep 2013 #135

I personally have never believed the official story of the JFK assassination. ... spin Sep 2013 #85

THOUGHTCRIME The Stranger Sep 2013 #89

and CRIMETHINK The Stranger Sep 2013 #90

FBI is 'Unleashed and unaccountable' says the ACLU 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #103

One hopes that folks here would read that link... KoKo Sep 2013 #150

Heres the Text from ACLU RELEASE: KoKo Sep 2013 #151

Even though the ridiculous "official" story is itself a conspiracy theory. PeteSelman Sep 2013 #104

Not at all surprising. We have a trillion dollar a year Surveillance program in truedelphi Sep 2013 #110

Like all truther non-sense, this is deceptive and only partially true Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #133

The FBI hasn't bee honest about 9/11 noise Sep 2013 #154

The secret police (FBI, NSA, CIA...) are the single biggest threat to this country. Far worse.... Taitertots Sep 2013 #138

Cut off Printed money BolDiya Sep 2013 #144

Well I guess a bunch of us marlakay Sep 2013 #152

sorry locking please repost in creative speculation n/t azurnoir Sep 2013 #156