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WilliamPitt

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20. Charles P. Pierce begs to differ.
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 07:05 PM
Sep 2013

I think I mentioned a while back that, while I was in journalism school -- And, yes, I went to J-school. Don't let that get around, OK? -- we were all the time debating the notion of a shield law. It was the late, great George Reedy, without whom I likely would have been the one lawyer who broke the camel's back, who pointed out that, if we accepted a shield law, then we also would have to accept government's right to define who it would be that the shield law covered, which meant we had to accept the government's right essentially to define what a journalist was, and this way, George said, lay madness. He mentioned the Royal licenses against which colonial pamphleteers rebelled. And the Stamp Act. And the use of the post office to restrict the circulation of unpopular ideas, from abolitionist newspapers to the Comstock laws.

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This isn't a law to protect journalists. If it were, that list of loopholes at the end wouldn't be quite so lengthy -- or quite so vague. (You can drive a team of ploughhorses through "information that could stop or prevent crimes such as...&quot This is a law to protect secrets. This is a law that redefines the exercise of a constitutional right as a privilege "protected" by the government. This is a law that allows the government to define what "the press" is under the First Amendment, and, my god, if that's not the primary consitutional heresy in that regard, I don't know what is. And I don't care that a judge can "extend" that privilege. That's not a judge's job, either.

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Let me be quite clear. If you accept the Congress's right to define what a journalist is, you are a miserable traitor to the profession you presume to practice. You have, quite simply, become something less worthy than an informer, something lower than a jailhouse snitch. I'll leave it to my man Chuck Todd to take the king's shilling. Me? I'll stand with the 17-year old and his own website, and, with all the faith I ever have had in my constitutional right to do so, we both will tell Dianne Feinstein to fk off, thank you. Stuff your privilege. I have my rights.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/dianne-feinstein-sheild-laws-091913

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Why did you start your own thread on this? enlightenment Sep 2013 #1
Did you object to the thread where they called for banning anyone who favors geek tragedy Sep 2013 #4
No, why would I? That was the original thread on the topic, as far as I know. enlightenment Sep 2013 #9
There was another thread calling it Orwellian and a threat to freedom etc. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #10
I'm aware of the thread. I had just been reading it enlightenment Sep 2013 #11
The Orwellian thread person is merely confused. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #12
Look, I'm really not into enlightenment Sep 2013 #13
To dispute baseless hysteria? Something that should be done sufrommich Sep 2013 #24
I disagree. enlightenment Sep 2013 #28
I'm a bit confused by the OP title 1000words Sep 2013 #2
DU is not solely comprised of progressives. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #3
Majority are progressive. Minority are Reagan Democrats leftstreet Sep 2013 #5
Reagan Democrats are socially conservative, old, white, uneducated. nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #8
Wrong. What a bigoted thing to say leftstreet Sep 2013 #18
So now you're accusing the truth of being bigoted. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #19
Was that point going to be lost on the not-so progressive members of DU? 1000words Sep 2013 #6
Says a lot, doesn't it? LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #25
Don't spoil their fun! Whisp Sep 2013 #7
This Shield Law is NOT all good... FirstLight Sep 2013 #14
Your last sentence is paranoid nonsense. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #15
i never said anything about gulags FirstLight Sep 2013 #16
The bill extends freedom of the press, it doesn't restrict it. nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #17
Charles P. Pierce begs to differ. WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #20
I'll take legal analysis and history over his conspiracy theory. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #21
Most of your "rebuttal" is character assassination 1000words Sep 2013 #22
Pierce's article is basically character assassination geek tragedy Sep 2013 #23
Well, think of it like other laws designed to limit the scope of other amendments The Straight Story Sep 2013 #33
Silly me, I thought the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution WAS the "shield law". scarletwoman Sep 2013 #26
The first amendment doesn't protect journalists geek tragedy Sep 2013 #27
Twisted logic. If someone wants to talk to a journalist, the journalist has the right to print scarletwoman Sep 2013 #29
That is reality as it exists today. Doesn't make geek tragedy Sep 2013 #31
I'm opposed to this law; I think it will do more harm than good. alarimer Sep 2013 #30
Since 1896, when the first shield law was passed. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #32
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