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TheKentuckian

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27. The stupid thing consistently missed, so I'm left to assume it is willful, is that the safety net
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 09:44 PM
Sep 2013

is working so lives are extended. That is a feature not a bug. We don't want our seniors dropping off due to lack of access to health care. We put a floor in to slow down the starving in the streets. Logic inevitably leads to longer lives for those that survive to the age, it is the intent of having the programs.

Of course most of the increase is decreased infant mortality and we like to forget that the age has already been raised, the contribution increased, and to be fair the cap raised some too but the job pool is shrinking and we cannot foresee or even reasonably speculate on an environment where there will be an overall labor shortage nor is there much evidence to support any translation between any token increase in overall longevity and workplace longevity, which if actual employer practices are any indicator is actually declining at an alarming rate.

The question is not how to cut the spending but rather how to at least resource a critical minimum such as we have because to do otherwise is to turn our backs on civilization and decent society a little at a time rather than to come up with pocket change that will far better serve the VAST majority of souls in those senior years.

It is about choices and priorities and absolutely nothing else. Medicare due to overall medical inflation is one thing but Social Security? Social Security is pure priorities. I call for at least one percent to be set aside for long term care. Most never use it but the funding is bad situation and could at least use such a stress reliever and make some really accommodation for a tough reality for some.

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There's Nothing in the Middle of the Road but Yellow Stripes and Dead Armadillos DJ13 Sep 2013 #1
^^^ Ya This Guy ^^^ FreakinDJ Sep 2013 #80
This AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #92
The increase in life expectancy was predicted 60+ years ago MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #2
+10000000 woo me with science Sep 2013 #11
this. nt Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #93
Social Seecurity is NOT part of the debt problem. It is self funded and is easily fixed on point Sep 2013 #3
this Johonny Sep 2013 #8
+1 daleanime Sep 2013 #23
This report is a con job meant to hoodwink the stupid masses. stillwaiting Sep 2013 #66
DU rec...nt SidDithers Sep 2013 #4
I love it when Canadians Aerows Sep 2013 #14
Just as a friend who broke her leg while visiting France, went to the Dr there, x-rayed, sent to Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #16
My point exactly Aerows Sep 2013 #76
I love it when xenophobes chime in on nationalities...nt SidDithers Sep 2013 #21
I don't think laws Aerows Sep 2013 #22
No doubt but he doesn't have the courage of his convictions. neverforget Sep 2013 #29
Pretty much Aerows Sep 2013 #30
Absolutely. When it came to Syria I asked him in a thread neverforget Sep 2013 #32
Unwarranted personal attack treestar Sep 2013 #48
No, it's a good point Aerows Sep 2013 #75
So can someone who lives in California comment on stupid ass laws in Florida? NoOneMan Sep 2013 #77
I don't recall Sid ever mentioning overturning single payer in Canada for mandated private insurance Fumesucker Sep 2013 #78
Exactly Aerows Sep 2013 #79
Not the point treestar Sep 2013 #85
Sid owns his words Fumesucker Sep 2013 #90
Yep, and if that heap of shit was pushed on Canadians, you would of seen riots NoOneMan Sep 2013 #86
You live in Canada Aerows Sep 2013 #81
Oh, no, I have no complaints now NoOneMan Sep 2013 #87
How silly treestar Sep 2013 #84
Unsolicited Advice from a Foreign Country FreakinDJ Sep 2013 #83
I vehemently disagree that we should cut Medicare & SS now before the Republicans do it. Laelth Sep 2013 #5
Spam and What Leftist ideologues are calling for an age increase???? nt Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #6
It's not spam. nt stevenleser Sep 2013 #35
yes it is and the board gets spammed with this third way mess every day. nt Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #36
No, it isn't. People post links from their favorite sites all the time. The OP has as much right to stevenleser Sep 2013 #37
It is spam. nt Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #73
It is trolling AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #91
KNR! JaneyVee Sep 2013 #7
President Obama and Team know what they're doing.. Cha Sep 2013 #9
RAISE THE FUCKING CAP. And JOBS, so more are paying into it. WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #10
Amen Aerows Sep 2013 #15
That's the solution Obama campaigned on. pa28 Sep 2013 #20
Barack Obama: "Let me be clear: I will not do either." WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #24
Gosh. He must be one of the left wing ideologues the OP warned us about. n/t pa28 Sep 2013 #26
Yes, however Obama did campaign on raising the SS cap. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #61
The deficit is down shenmue Sep 2013 #12
Because we read and have memories. Igel Sep 2013 #17
Did any leftists say the deficit wouldn't be cut? DireStrike Sep 2013 #13
OMG! There you go after that rail! What of our sacred cows, will there be BBQ? Sorry, just bad today freshwest Sep 2013 #18
It is true that the situation is really not as bad as some media report. And little adjustment Sand Wind Sep 2013 #19
"Extreme left". Bwahahahahahahaha... Scuba Sep 2013 #57
Right, it is true that compare to a lot of other countries, the US center is far more on the right.. Sand Wind Sep 2013 #62
You're confusing the politicians with the People. Scuba Sep 2013 #63
I'm not considering these proposition to be extrem left, but it is a fact that a lot of people Sand Wind Sep 2013 #64
That article is just more anti-Democratic third way tripe AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #25
+1,000 Scuba Sep 2013 #58
The stupid thing consistently missed, so I'm left to assume it is willful, is that the safety net TheKentuckian Sep 2013 #27
Paul Krugman and Dean Baker are "leftist ideologues?" MFrohike Sep 2013 #28
Only if you buy into right wing talking points AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #70
Spammity spam spam tkmorris Sep 2013 #31
It's not spam. I have no opinion on the content, but this line of attack is ridiculous. nt stevenleser Sep 2013 #34
no opinion on the content hfojvt Sep 2013 #43
There are plenty of non msm websites that are linked to here and I am sure each has objectors. stevenleser Sep 2013 #44
Yes it is tkmorris Sep 2013 #52
No, it's not. Plenty of people do that from their favorite source. nt stevenleser Sep 2013 #54
No wonder Fox invites you on so often. Scuba Sep 2013 #59
LOL! I love people who admit defeat by going ad-hominem! nt stevenleser Sep 2013 #69
Freaking dopplegangers, not Democrats. mick063 Sep 2013 #33
The answer is simple JNelson6563 Sep 2013 #38
Wages are down, poverty up during Obama's Presidency. Who the fuck cares about the deficit??? Romulox Sep 2013 #39
Oh, and Michigan and DETROIT are in a shambles, and the President has refused to help. Romulox Sep 2013 #40
Sad. Most of the comments sound like a shit load of Cavers Autumn Sep 2013 #41
Since those life expectancy gains are going to the 1%, Live and Learn Sep 2013 #42
Who, by name, wrote this analysis? n/t Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #45
The conclusion of the article does not reflect what the CBO says AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #71
Not receiving a reply from the one who put up this OP I tried to find out who the blogger is Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #72
But it's only because we held his feet to the fire!!!!!! treestar Sep 2013 #46
Raise the fucking cap ...the fucking ass kissers of the rich won't do it. L0oniX Sep 2013 #47
K & R Scurrilous Sep 2013 #49
Can anyone who has recommended this OP tell me who he is and what are his Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #50
So they are crediting Obama's policies with the sequestration and not increasing spending? dkf Sep 2013 #51
My plan is to keep being a liberal, no matter what values Republicans tell me I should sacrifice. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2013 #53
If the document is a "vindication of President Obama's economic policies" then it's wrong. Scuba Sep 2013 #55
... Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2013 #56
Tokyo Rosacea whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #60
"Sensible proposals" = chained CPI = mass murder of old sick people without money eridani Sep 2013 #65
How can liberal ideologues be blamed or held mmonk Sep 2013 #67
Haha, no. Much of it was the sequester, advocated by the left as opposed to other options. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #68
K&R Tarheel_Dem Sep 2013 #74
No CBO report here - Just some AssHole's Opinion FreakinDJ Sep 2013 #82
True shame the blog owner passed up voting for Obama. Rex Sep 2013 #88
The Stupid Conservadem 'People's View bobduca Sep 2013 #89
You would think someone called michigandem58 NuclearDem Sep 2013 #94
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