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gulliver

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16. Obama was my second choice, behind HRC.
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 03:28 PM
Dec 2011

I remember how good things were under Bill Clinton, and I thought Hillary could help reestablish that. Also, she is extremely tough, and she is a brilliant speaker. During the debates, she basically chased Obama around the stage.

My greatest concern about Obama was not that he lacked toughness. He had that. My greatest concern was that some of Obama's supporters had their eyelids a couple of fractions too far open when they talked about him. I was afraid they were just a little crazy. I thought it would translate into us nominating someone who would have a hard time in the general election. I still think we would have lost if the economy had not completely collapsed. If America had been a little fatter and happier, McCain would have been elected, and the black guy whose name sounded like Osama would have been sent packing.

After seeing Obama in the office, I think he is a fantastic president, and I can't imagine Hillary or anyone else doing better. I think in his second term he will be much more assured and much stronger. Bush was dogged and weakened in his second term. His windfall, the false image of leadership he was handed on 9/11, faded. His personal tininess, his grotesque failures of leadership, and his sneaky-boy malfeasance caught up with him after 2004. Obama is another matter entirely. His essential strength, intelligence, and the outright wisdom of his approach to power will buoy him.

One miscalculation and disappointment. I thought that Obama's wide-eyed, "He's the Messiah" supporters from 2008 would behave very differently. I expected them to fight viciously for Obama against the Republicans. I thought that when the Republicans attacked Obama personally and blocked his every effort, his fans would scream bloody murder—at Republicans. I wish I had seen more of that. Very disappointing.

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I chose Biden - still think it was a good choice. nt gateley Dec 2011 #1
I always liked Sen. Biden. Didn't always agree with him . . . bigtree Dec 2011 #4
I haven't always agreed with him, either, but I trusted him more than I did any gateley Dec 2011 #19
By the way, I think your OP is OUTSTANDING! gateley Dec 2011 #21
Thanks for your input Frances Dec 2011 #2
anyone who lived through that and fought it (daily) bigtree Dec 2011 #8
Nice post, bigtree. I too supported HRC over BO justiceischeap Dec 2011 #3
I hope the President's recent populism bigtree Dec 2011 #9
strong effort, mr big... blm Dec 2011 #5
always bigtree Dec 2011 #6
I also supported HRC but then went on to support Obama. beyurslf Dec 2011 #7
I too thought HRC would be a stronger president than Obama Frances Dec 2011 #11
Exactly. And any one of the bafoons currently running? beyurslf Dec 2011 #20
He was my third choice, after Kucinich and Edwards. kestrel91316 Dec 2011 #10
All the well traveled and established roads lead to a similar end. It makes no difference TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #12
and the rest is still nothingness. There is no viable coalition outside of the two parties bigtree Dec 2011 #13
well written post. dionysus Dec 2011 #14
I originally trended for Edwards. Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #15
Obama was my second choice, behind HRC. gulliver Dec 2011 #16
I appreciate your post DonCoquixote Dec 2011 #17
Any President would be in the same position. To say otherwise would be fantasy. maximusveritas Dec 2011 #18
President Obama was my first choice spanone Dec 2011 #22
"He's the best and only hope we have..." NYC_SKP Dec 2011 #23
I backed Clinton in her duel with Obama. bluestate10 Dec 2011 #24
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