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DragonBorn

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133. Its not about flaunting

Tue Sep 24, 2013, 01:48 PM

Sep 2013

Open Carry is the only legal means to carry in certains areas. Concelled Carry is not legal, or requires extra permitting. Allow for concelled handguns and I'd bet you'd see a significat drop in open carriers.

The only place I would insist that open carry remain an option is if you are out in the wilderness hunting, fishing, or camping.

EDIT - Just wanted to say that prison guards, while they have a reason to carry; have much less so than patrol officers. Patrol officers usually patrol the same areas, and have a greater chance of running into some they arrested previously who has not gone to trial yet, made bail, or been released.

Some officers prefer open carry, as thats how they train to draw their weapon and how they will most likely draw their weapon if they ever have to. Deviations in such a critical "action" are to be avoided. You don't want to have to train two different ways depending on what time / day it is.

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This is how these "open carry" morons should be handled [View all] rdharma Sep 2013 OP

Such people are morons, we can all agree. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #1

Call the cops every time you see an asshole open carrying NightWatcher Sep 2013 #2

And exactly how am I supposed to know they are an asshole, SQUEE Sep 2013 #5

if they've a gun strapped to their side in Starbucks, they're an asshole NightWatcher Sep 2013 #7

+1000 Hayduke Bomgarte Sep 2013 #24

yep Cryptoad Sep 2013 #55

just like gang bangers, right? GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #122

Bush, Cheney and crew? Yes, those gang bangers doe have a look about them uponit7771 Sep 2013 #126

let's just stereotype everyone!! GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #129

That sums it up etherealtruth Sep 2013 #97

Question DragonBorn Sep 2013 #115

my guy is a Sergeant in a prison blueamy66 Sep 2013 #119

Its not about flaunting DragonBorn Sep 2013 #133

Okay, I see your point. blueamy66 Sep 2013 #158

You might think it is pretty damn dumb to let everyone know what you're carrying. GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #121

"... dumb to let everyone know what you're carrying."... Bigmack Sep 2013 #161

If someone is flaunting a gun (and is not a police person) rurallib Sep 2013 #12

And the anti gun nuts say gun owners are scared? rl6214 Sep 2013 #56

Open carry hurts the gun cause. CC does not. Just showing off. n-t Logical Sep 2013 #62

Gotta agree with you there rl6214 Sep 2013 #64

I agree with you on that also. Most people here do not realize CC holders have a lower.... Logical Sep 2013 #98

that is correct DrDan Sep 2013 #78

I have a fire extinguisher and jumper cables as well... Decaffeinated Sep 2013 #155

do you carry those into Starbucks when you have the urge for some coffee? DrDan Sep 2013 #171

Rarely... Decaffeinated Sep 2013 #173

Monday I carried into McDonald's. Concealed of course. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #180

We're not scared, just smart Politicalboi Sep 2013 #79

And you can be the one hiding in a corner, unable to protect your family rl6214 Sep 2013 #144

Confusing concern with "scared" is a wonderfully self-validating way to minimize LanternWaste Sep 2013 #110

Why it's something I say? rl6214 Sep 2013 #145

Just a note here: A guy walks into a coffee shop carrying an AR-15. Or, another walks in to a AlinPA Sep 2013 #132

I really don't see any differences in your distinction. Old and In the Way Sep 2013 #177

What illegal activity are you talking about? rdharma Sep 2013 #14

you fool no one who follows your antics. SQUEE Sep 2013 #22

What law have I advocated violating? rdharma Sep 2013 #26

Not in Washington State. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #29

How is it a nuisance call? lark Sep 2013 #46

Your misunderstanding of what "brandishing" means does not make open carry unlawful. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #48

"Menacing" has been clearly established by law. rdharma Sep 2013 #65

And you, and that poster, are mis-identifying it. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #66

NOT illegal to report folks who are carrying a weapon with the intent to intimidate. rdharma Sep 2013 #67

You are fabricating 'intent to intimidate'. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #68

No. I'm not. rdharma Sep 2013 #72

In this state police dispatch will tell you, you are wasting their time. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #83

Sure they will! rdharma Sep 2013 #86

Your tax dollars at work. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #102

Intent to intimidate... haha GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #123

Any act that creates fear and serves no lawful or reasonable purpose...... rdharma Sep 2013 #140

tying up gov't and police resources. GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #150

Not me. The idiot with the gun is the one "taking up" the police resources. n/t rdharma Sep 2013 #154

haha! so it's an automatic reaction for you to call the police on someone not breaking the law? GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #157

Give the needle a bump on your broken record..... rdharma Sep 2013 #159

your fear of anything gun related which causes you to call the cops out of your fear GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #160

You mad, bro? n/t rdharma Sep 2013 #165

nope, just disgusted! GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #166

Fine Caretha Sep 2013 #91

What do you suggest is small about women who choose to carry? AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #101

Good question Caretha Sep 2013 #148

If I see a civilian with an assault riffle you bet I'm scared. I'm scared just reading this thread! Maraya1969 Sep 2013 #116

You still haven't told us about what law I'm encouraging people to violate! rdharma Sep 2013 #89

Only assholes, morons, and criminals "open carry." hunter Sep 2013 #19

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #23

"Tactically unsound?" Which movie or paperback did you get that from? hunter Sep 2013 #25

I feel the same way Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2013 #73

That is exactly the point--none of us know and I Skidmore Sep 2013 #30

Well, it doesn't seem to be working?! AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #53

Open carrying is pretty good clue. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2013 #50

How are you to know it they are an asshole? Caretha Sep 2013 #90

^^^ I love this answer! Iggo Sep 2013 #143

stereotype much?? GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #120

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2013 #124

Who wants to be in a coffee shop with angry, dangerous morons? JEFF9K Sep 2013 #3

I don't think Starbucks appreciated the gun-humpers' "Starbucks Apppreciation Day"! rdharma Sep 2013 #15

SB didn't appreciate being made the battleground for an issue that belongs in the legislature. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #49

how do you know they are angry or dangerous? GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #125

In inappropriate situations, call the cops when you see a gun not in the hands of a LEO. onehandle Sep 2013 #4

Gun carrying certainly is not normal in public places....... rdharma Sep 2013 #9

+1 Agschmid Sep 2013 #11

Is there any other purpose Control-Z Sep 2013 #20

That depends on where you live. ... spin Sep 2013 #81

It's normal in many places in America.... Decaffeinated Sep 2013 #167

Really? onehandle Sep 2013 #168

Truly... Decaffeinated Sep 2013 #169

I support these guys, and all open-carry demonstrators. Robb Sep 2013 #6

Snort. Scuba Sep 2013 #8

You've got a point...... they're "shooting themselves in the foot" so to speak..... rdharma Sep 2013 #10

Always conceal carry in public. ileus Sep 2013 #13

This is more my style... hunter Sep 2013 #27

Nice secure holster! rdharma Sep 2013 #28

Not a bad company to order stuff from. ileus Sep 2013 #51

the point of "open carry"= intimidation and instill fear (an appropriate response to gun nuts) nt msongs Sep 2013 #16

so we're supposed to guess if paranoid gun humping cowards loaded their weapons Skittles Sep 2013 #17

And the police are too! rdharma Sep 2013 #31

I was in a mall where a guy was walking with a big axe Skittles Sep 2013 #36

Not easy to understand intent? rdharma Sep 2013 #41

well I know they are cowards who are trying to intimidate Skittles Sep 2013 #44

In many open carry states, a person can open carry a loaded firearm. ... spin Sep 2013 #85

These gun nuts worship guns to the point that they have to show them off in public quinnox Sep 2013 #18

This is how most people feel when they are confronted by open carry demonstrators: leveymg Sep 2013 #21

Saw a guy maybe in his twenties today standing outside the mall with a open carry doc03 Sep 2013 #32

Sure you did! rdharma Sep 2013 #33

It absolutly does say exactly that. I have been wondering since I have a CCW permit if I doc03 Sep 2013 #34

I respectfully call BS! rdharma Sep 2013 #35

Well it is at the Ohio Valley Mall in St. Clairsville, Ohio. Why wouldn't believe they have doc03 Sep 2013 #37

So your CCW permit was issued by.............? rdharma Sep 2013 #38

The state of Ohio and the sign says no firearms except as authorised doc03 Sep 2013 #39

It might help if you downloaded Ohio's document dealing with concealed carry. ... spin Sep 2013 #88

The guy outside was on mall property, I wouldn't be suprised if he was asked doc03 Sep 2013 #43

Open carry? rdharma Sep 2013 #45

Well I know not in the bank or a bar but when a sign says unless authorised by state or doc03 Sep 2013 #47

??? Skittles Sep 2013 #40

Language varies from state to state. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #52

Show me one! rdharma Sep 2013 #71

Here's the sign the Mall of America puts up NickB79 Sep 2013 #69

Thank-you, Nick! rdharma Sep 2013 #70

Here's one for Ohio X_Digger Sep 2013 #75

You can't bring guns onto private property where notified. rdharma Sep 2013 #82

Unless otherwise authorized by law. (I am authotized by the state of doc03 Sep 2013 #94

The language doesn't matter for Ohio. X_Digger Sep 2013 #96

You're authorized to carry on the private property of a business posting this notice? rdharma Sep 2013 #99

Kindly keep your fingers out of my mouth, thanks. X_Digger Sep 2013 #95

"as long as the weapon is not loaded." Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #42

Water balloon? AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #54

Not necessarily filled with water. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #59

Am I to presume you mean hitting the person with a water balloon? AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #61

Would I do that? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #76

What else would you do with it? AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #84

Ignoring this crap just encourages them.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #87

I don't really advocate physical violence over ANY words. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #100

These guys want an excuse to murder. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #103

Assaulting one could provide the opportunity they are looking for. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #104

Hmmm... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #105

Much safer. Or tell them what you think of them. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #107

Funny how it's okay for them to threaten. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #113

It's legal in most states to openly carry a firearm in that manner. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #114

Some people have ZERO sense of humor. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #117

100% agree. :) AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #118

Personally, I prefer open carry as a "gun grabber" HockeyMom Sep 2013 #57

Well, it would be nice if the "gun grabber's" were all on the same page about that. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #58

I'm not too keen on concealed carry either. hunter Sep 2013 #93

Bad guys do NOT always own the element of surprise. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #111

When the only tool you've got is a hammer... hunter Sep 2013 #178

My wife is alive because she was armed when she needed to be. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #179

I've been in some rough situations. hunter Sep 2013 #181

Since you live in Florida, if you do see a person openly carrying a firearm in public ... spin Sep 2013 #80

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #60

Dumbasses ... Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #63

Call the cops EVERY FUCKING TIME RetroLounge Sep 2013 #74

Not only are they ass holes........ rdharma Sep 2013 #92

Yup. RetroLounge Sep 2013 #142

yeah, take the cops away from domestic violence calls.. GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #130

Because yes, that's all they will be doing. RetroLounge Sep 2013 #141

... GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #151

That must seem somehow meaningful to you? RetroLounge Sep 2013 #183

Open carry douchebags can suck it. jpak Sep 2013 #77

Interesting gopiscrap Sep 2013 #106

What they don't understand very well Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2013 #108

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2013 #128

if only the world would only do things that are "good ideas" GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #131

People who go into stores open carrying or walk near schools.... Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #109

More bs from the see no evil crowd Boom Sound 416 Sep 2013 #112

If the law says you can open carry then you can open carry! GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #127

Menacing and disturbing the peace aren't legal. n/t rdharma Sep 2013 #134

where does it state that open carry is menacing and disturbing the peace? GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #135

I'd suggest you check the statutes on menacing and disturbing the peace in your state. n/t rdharma Sep 2013 #136

Please read my post #139. It depends on how it is being carried. AlinPA Sep 2013 #146

Just a note here: (I'm repeating myself) AlinPA Sep 2013 #139

get off your high horse and quit being afraid! GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #149

Right. Who'd be threatened by a guy walking into a theater holding a shotgun? Or holding a AlinPA Sep 2013 #172

I didn't talk shit or make fun of the guy, why should I feel threatened? GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #175

A guy walks in to a public place toting a shotgun or AR-15 and it is not a threatening situation? AlinPA Sep 2013 #176

that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #182

under the eye of the law each of those situations are the same. GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #153

I'm not saying they are strapped on his back or holstered, rather they are carrying them in their AlinPA Sep 2013 #170

which is legal. GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #174

WOW! MyOwnPeace Sep 2013 #137

Oops! rdharma Sep 2013 #138

I'll never understand the desire to open-carry NickB79 Sep 2013 #147

"Look at my gun." Iggo Sep 2013 #163

Neither do I. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #164

There are very few places/times where I would want to OC. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #184

Good luck with that.... Decaffeinated Sep 2013 #152

We'll see! rdharma Sep 2013 #156

And good luck to you, as well. Iggo Sep 2013 #162

I'm going to call the cops on anyone I see openly carrying a gun. Vashta Nerada Sep 2013 #185