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Aldo Leopold

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24. Hey, kentuck, I like this post and agree

Tue Sep 24, 2013, 05:24 PM

Sep 2013

with most of your observations. 'Course, I've only been visiting daily since 2004, and only been banned under a different user ID once, but something I would add in my 9 years of experience here is that there seems to be a lot more WHINING now than ever before.

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All the gungeoneers. HERVEPA Sep 2013 #1

Big mistake opening GD to gun threads hack89 Sep 2013 #3

Exactly. HERVEPA Sep 2013 #8

Gun violence is such a pervasive element in today's society Crunchy Frog Sep 2013 #36

Gun discusions on DU are not calm, rational discusions that actually change peoples minds hack89 Sep 2013 #43

Nevertheless Crunchy Frog Sep 2013 #95

Complained about that many times. Finally ...trash word helped a lot. L0oniX Sep 2013 #52

BANG! That's the big evil here. nt valerief Sep 2013 #31

Broad brush. Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #32

Fortunately the mod's have clamped down on DU'ers using NRA talking points. madinmaryland Sep 2013 #57

I heartily agree etherealtruth Sep 2013 #74

I think the gun controllers/banners have increased the corrosive effect on DU... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #78

I agree that civility and discussion have been degraded by the 'gun" issue in GD etherealtruth Sep 2013 #88

I appreciate your reasonable post. I have posted on labor Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #92

I appreciate your reasonable post. I have posted on labor Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #99

It has changed but... liberal N proud Sep 2013 #2

Factitude is not always easy to discern. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #20

I remember some of our biggest disagreements were over Bill Clinton's "achievements"... kentuck Sep 2013 #21

Nader brought out the crazy, though 1000words Sep 2013 #22

I think that level of discourse still goes on here. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #23

Level of discourse improved greatly when I put 25 of the worst snarksters on ignore. Divernan Sep 2013 #44

I'm honored to have apparently avoided your list. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #63

Nobody who supports Warren would be on my ignore list! Divernan Sep 2013 #80

I keep a couple of the nitwits off Ignore for sheer entertainment purposes Skittles Sep 2013 #101

Thank you. TexasTowelie Sep 2013 #110

whassup TexasTowlie? Skittles Sep 2013 #111

I'm still waiting to hear the closing date on the property in Brenham. TexasTowelie Sep 2013 #115

wishing you good luck Skittles Sep 2013 #116

Was President Clinton villified in the same way as President Obama is here? DCBob Sep 2013 #28

"Vilified"? kentuck Sep 2013 #30

Clinton was effectively out of office when this place was founded. nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #40

Exactly liberal N proud Sep 2013 #64

He might have been if we had the kind of information flow we do here now Hydra Sep 2013 #123

This is true. murielm99 Sep 2013 #25

It seems to me that.... sgtbenobo Sep 2013 #4

joined in 2001 also DrDan Sep 2013 #5

2004 was no picnic either justabob Sep 2013 #11

Funny, the biggest change I see is lack of Moderators. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #6

We have juries now Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #10

Or immoderate ourselves often enough. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2013 #14

Yea ...that system is a bad joke. L0oniX Sep 2013 #53

The mod system was light years better than the clown jury system we have now. L0oniX Sep 2013 #54

I tend in that direction. I suspect the moderator system Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #83

Agree 100% kcr Sep 2013 #139

Same here War Horse Sep 2013 #56

In the early days, there was a clear cause that encouraged unity 1000words Sep 2013 #7

Barack Obama with a D behind his name xiamiam Sep 2013 #9

You've hit the nail on the head! sgtbenobo Sep 2013 #12

Shhhhhhhhh... R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #16

^^this^^ I am appalled at the number of Dems who now think that Pres. Obama can Nay Sep 2013 #19

BINGO! n/t DeSwiss Sep 2013 #26

That, to me, is the true definition of ODS. winter is coming Sep 2013 #27

yup Skittles Sep 2013 #29

^^This^^ nt Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #34

So, its' Obama supporters who ruined DU. nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #37

Come off the stage for just a moment, please. IveWornAHundredPants Sep 2013 #62

Why does it matter? YoungDemCA Sep 2013 #114

Who said everything the President has done was good and admirable? geek tragedy Sep 2013 #121

Yep. Pretty much. n/t Dawgs Sep 2013 #124

Yes, those actual Democrats totally ruined the place! nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #126

I never said they were Democrats. n/t Dawgs Sep 2013 #128

They're Democrats whether you think so or not. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #129

Obama supporters are members of the Democratic party, but they are not Democrats. n/t Dawgs Sep 2013 #130

Ted Cruz would approve of that logic geek tragedy Sep 2013 #132

The vast majority of blacks of Latinos are being ignored by the Democratic leaders. Dawgs Sep 2013 #141

I'm sure they'd love to hear from someone like you geek tragedy Sep 2013 #143

There you go again LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #133

The two groups overlap quite a bit. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #136

As do DLCers and Obama Supporters LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #138

Yes and no. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #140

I refer here not to DLC as an organization, but from the LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #142

what exactly do you mean by the "third way policy perspective?" geek tragedy Sep 2013 #144

That's been my experience as well. WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #41

Indeed LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #135

yep and sadly predictable too azurnoir Sep 2013 #45

Excellent post MissDeeds Sep 2013 #47

Yup Maven Sep 2013 #51

^^^AMEN^^^ L0oniX Sep 2013 #55

Yes, true that. RC Sep 2013 #60

Exactly! Blind allegiance. Arkansas Granny Sep 2013 #66

You've hit the nail on the head. smokey nj Sep 2013 #72

Frustration with President Obama has greatly affected the tenor here. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #84

Exactly right; well said. truebluegreen Sep 2013 #91

+18 Right there. n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #100

Agreed. This. Yes. YoungDemCA Sep 2013 #113

A Hater is gonna Hate... Hobo Sep 2013 #119

Obama = Bush (or anything close) = bullshit uponit7771 Sep 2013 #120

Yes, it's sad. sibelian Sep 2013 #131

Virtually everything runs in cycles, remain tenacious and keep up the good fight, Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #13

+1 on cycles and tenacity. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #18

Back "in the day" we used to debate to inform, now.. WAY too many alert to kill debate. Mika Sep 2013 #15

DU got message control Hydra Sep 2013 #17

Hey, kentuck, I like this post and agree Aldo Leopold Sep 2013 #24

Back then Democrats weren't selling out seniors and little kids. MichiganVote Sep 2013 #33

And today Democrats aren't selling out seniors and little kids. Quit lying. nt tridim Sep 2013 #85

I'd say that the biggest change is that it has gotten vastly bigger. Crunchy Frog Sep 2013 #35

I came to DU in the euphoria of Kerry's seeming progress over dubya during CTyankee Sep 2013 #38

Democrats started winning elections and having governing authority/responsibility. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #39

And we did make a difference. And hopefully will continue. We seem to do better fighting the enemy jwirr Sep 2013 #42

I wish the following could be up front and center SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2013 #46

I remember those days. Gore1FL Sep 2013 #48

Nice to see you're still here. Boudica the Lyoness Sep 2013 #118

kentuck... I know we've all seen that, but... MrMickeysMom Sep 2013 #49

The loss of institutional memory is rather sad... kentuck Sep 2013 #50

I have those days...also... KoKo Sep 2013 #86

I do agree... kentuck Sep 2013 #90

There are still a few of us long timers around that refuse to be intimated into leaving. RC Sep 2013 #106

Yes, it does seem that way... MrMickeysMom Sep 2013 #108

For YOU, Kentuck! From Long Times...here.... KoKo Sep 2013 #58

Thanks, KoKo01! kentuck Sep 2013 #59

She does a nice version of this....I think.. KoKo Sep 2013 #94

Oh, Yes! kentuck Sep 2013 #98

no more DUzys. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #61

We are no longer the party of resistance. Rex Sep 2013 #65

Exactly true bhikkhu Sep 2013 #67

But...But...If what you say is true...then WHERE will COME the RESISTANCE? KoKo Sep 2013 #69

I think I've finally discovered where all the irrational hatred for Rex Sep 2013 #71

I think though...that there so much "confusion" out there...it's hard to know KoKo Sep 2013 #76

"He goes down to the bog to warm his feet..." kentuck Sep 2013 #81

That's Quite a Listen...Thanks! KoKo Sep 2013 #87

The Third Way has made way too much advancement into the Dem agenda. Rex Sep 2013 #82

Yes Koko. we will rise from the muck of it but not without sharing the not so pleasant truth xiamiam Sep 2013 #73

I hope we get to that point where we can realize as Dem Party... KoKo Sep 2013 #79

Good post, kentuck. TransitJohn Sep 2013 #68

I remember that day and seeing the Democraticunderground.com banner on CPAN mahina Sep 2013 #70

Maybe.."this place...DU" is in a mess..for a purpose. We can't see it now... KoKo Sep 2013 #75

Lots of newbies, most of whom are great Warpy Sep 2013 #77

The allowing of off color racist statements as "challenging the President" DFab420 Sep 2013 #89

As Bob Dylan Said...so many old years ago: "Only a Pawn in Their Game." KoKo Sep 2013 #93

Can you point to some of those? LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #137

I can't quit you DU.... WCGreen Sep 2013 #96

More meaner, less funnyer. A-Schwarzenegger Sep 2013 #97

There was a lot more original threads penned by some truly intelligent analytical thinkers earlier Samantha Sep 2013 #102

Good Point...it was enlightening...and I, personally learned alot from KoKo Sep 2013 #107

I clicked on this thread to say that DU is the same as it ever was. last1standing Sep 2013 #103

Hello kentuck baby_bear Sep 2013 #104

Hi, sierra_moon. bvar22 Sep 2013 #122

Biggest change: the think tanks and their 'personas' found us, and want to control the framing. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #105

It was inevitable. David__77 Sep 2013 #109

We made a difference when *****Official LIVE blog threads were covering Bush oversight hearings Coyotl Sep 2013 #112

people with total lack of respect for others opinions madrchsod Sep 2013 #117

Looks like we are about to have a huge change and for the better! Rex Sep 2013 #125

Too much introspection about DU and DUers*. CJCRANE Sep 2013 #127

Let me sign up to your last paragraph: DU does not make a major difference. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #134