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libdem4life

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65. I've been politically aware since "I Like Ike" raised us from the dregs of national and financial

Wed Sep 25, 2013, 08:01 PM

Sep 2013

abyss of a Depression and two World Wars. In my opinion, the Powers That Be ... earthly and cosmic ... will never allow that to happen...it would be the easy way out. Like women went to work outside the home so their men could fight and die in Europe and Asia, it now takes two wage earners here to nominally support a family and somehow we'll make do.

My imperfect understanding is that we live in a planetary and evolutionary spiral that is ever (sometimes ever so slightly) upwards, but has a painful dark and blind side which drives the frantic species upward again. The Christians call it AD as 2000 years is but a blip on the screen. The Hindus call this the Kali Yuga...the Ancient Westerners call it The Aquarian Age. The Reincarnationists say we've been here done it before and have to do it over and over again. The Buddhists say we don't get to escape suffering...just have to adjust. Who knows.

Can be depressing, agreed.

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Things WILL NOT get better until the system implodes [View all] Taverner Sep 2013 OP

How old are you, man? A HERETIC I AM Sep 2013 #1

I am 43. Parents are in their 70s. Taverner Sep 2013 #3

Expecting, not advocating Alamuti Lotus Sep 2013 #22

Fair enough, but he did say "Hope for" A HERETIC I AM Sep 2013 #26

"Hope for" kinda sounds like advocating to me ..... oldhippie Sep 2013 #33

Please consider that things only have gotten better in this country Warpy Sep 2013 #45

I disagree. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2013 #59

Additionally, the "country" won't get better until the Empire breaks up into 5 or 6 separate ones... villager Sep 2013 #2

Republic of Texas and the Confederate States of America Taverner Sep 2013 #6

Well, we'll at least have to have political asylum offers at the ready, for Austinites... villager Sep 2013 #28

yup gopiscrap Sep 2013 #38

If Texas will take Orange County too, it's a deal /eom pffshht Sep 2013 #55

Now now the "OC" is a blue county now Taverner Sep 2013 #56

"California should trade Bakersfield, Fresno and Modesto for Austin"----I like that! nikto Sep 2013 #69

Now THAT'S activism! Hoping for the worst in a storm! randome Sep 2013 #4

Sometimes you gotta start from scratch Taverner Sep 2013 #8

Hoping for poor people to have their life expectancies shortened by 20 years is real progressive! nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #13

No, I don't hope for it. But I don't think we can do a thing to stop it. Taverner Sep 2013 #19

No? oldhippie Sep 2013 #35

Well exactly, this is the BEST case scenario Taverner Sep 2013 #39

The difference between a fast implosion/fast recovery, or a long slow agonizing spiral. eom Mika Sep 2013 #47

1920's Germany shows what a long slow spiral is like Taverner Sep 2013 #48

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Welcome to DU gopiscrap Sep 2013 #61

You Drew One, Sir, And An Epic Jury Fail The Magistrate Sep 2013 #68

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Good Luck With That, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2013 #73

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TOS? Maybe not. Cerridwen Sep 2013 #75

One Of Them, Ma'am, Has Serious Reading Comprehension Issues The Magistrate Sep 2013 #78

It doesn't take that much nuance to get the Cerridwen Sep 2013 #81

It May Just Be My Age, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2013 #83

"to identify yourself as a radical was to make a claim to being knowledgeable" Cerridwen Sep 2013 #84

wowsy wowsy woo woo pintobean Sep 2013 #5

Pretty much, yeah. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #7

I actually don't think there is any cabal Taverner Sep 2013 #11

In this regard, you're probably right. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2013 #23

I think that's it. And until something changes it's going to stay that way. Autumn Sep 2013 #25

Neither do I Taverner Sep 2013 #41

OR...we can live in the real world... brooklynite Sep 2013 #9

There isn't even incremental change Taverner Sep 2013 #14

Yeah, remember how gays still can't marry anywhere? jeff47 Sep 2013 #80

the real world. Phlem Sep 2013 #58

Your suggestion has been considered and rejected as utterly insane and depraved. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #10

I don't want it. BELIEVE me I don't want it. Taverner Sep 2013 #12

We're not headed there. This is not Greece. The US government is not broke, it is not close to geek tragedy Sep 2013 #15

It's not broke NOW Taverner Sep 2013 #16

Here's a brilliant idea: geek tragedy Sep 2013 #17

It takes millions of stupid to hold us all back Taverner Sep 2013 #18

the country is getting more liberal. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #20

So true. And the continued dominance of the Teabaggers & their ilk isn't helping them..... AverageJoe90 Sep 2013 #46

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+1 JoePhilly Sep 2013 #88

I regularly feel the same way as you... tk2kewl Sep 2013 #21

Same here. The "incremental change" thing is not working out that well for millions of Americans. Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2013 #32

If Obama gives us good health insurance, cuts the deficit, and grows the economy... NightWatcher Sep 2013 #24

The ONLY part of the economy Obama grows is the investment side, Big Banker's side. truedelphi Sep 2013 #30

I basically agree, BUT MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #27

how many times are you going to post this OP? Just curious cali Sep 2013 #29

LOL Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #34

Can you get any more moribund? babylonsister Sep 2013 #31

Sorry - Happy Taverner is dead. Call me "Moribuddy" Taverner Sep 2013 #57

I don't think that's true. Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #36

Things will not get better until the only option is cooperation HereSince1628 Sep 2013 #37

Exactly. So mote it be. Taverner Sep 2013 #51

It will require Government being afraid of the people which will require... Bonhomme Richard Sep 2013 #40

Perhaps a long series of Wildcat Stikes might do it... Taverner Sep 2013 #42

Thom Hartmann agrees with you. Cleita Sep 2013 #43

Small crash, followed by a Government band-aid, followed by an even bigger crash Taverner Sep 2013 #44

Sadly, I think you are correct. 99Forever Sep 2013 #49

Yep. So far the empire makes up the lionshare of our budget Taverner Sep 2013 #50

The mayhem and misery would drag a lot of good people down with it seveneyes Sep 2013 #52

Good people will be hurt no matter what happens Taverner Sep 2013 #53

True that. ozone_man Sep 2013 #54

In 2008 when the bankers cried we are just hours from a curency colapse. BillyRibs Sep 2013 #62

What we needed was not a collapse almost as bad as the Great Depression, we needed ProSense Sep 2013 #64

I've been politically aware since "I Like Ike" raised us from the dregs of national and financial libdem4life Sep 2013 #65

Implode isn't the only option. There's also EXplode. Both could work. JEFF9K Sep 2013 #66

Nihilistic fatalism is a lousy philosophy. MineralMan Sep 2013 #70

It's all big picture Taverner Sep 2013 #85

K&R DeSwiss Sep 2013 #71

This may be of interest to you. Laelth Sep 2013 #76

A government that can print money can't go bankrupt. truebluegreen Sep 2013 #77

I believe you are correct. Omnith Sep 2013 #79

The only solution is world revolution. nt Zorra Sep 2013 #82

Keep waiting MFrohike Sep 2013 #86

The tea party hopes for the same collapse ... except ... JoePhilly Sep 2013 #87