Sorry, Apple, and Apple fans, but that's how it goes.

[Jakes Progress]

37. This thread wasn't supposed to be the inane

and pointless "Mac Battle".

You can like or not like what you want. If you have devolved into a "hater", then you can join the hipsters and all the other "independent" thinkers in using wannabe devices. Apple does a good job of research and development for so many companies to copy that you have a plethora of cheaply made pretenders to play with.

This thread was supposed to be about the abusive working conditions in tech plants in Asia. The PC/Mac game is pointless. My point was that Apple is no more at fault than any other tech providing company and that when the haters (your new team) jump up and down about the Apple bogey man, they are just playing the game invented by Apple competitors so they can feel good about themselves. The hollering and grandstanding don't do anything about the problem.

I use Apple stuff. I have told Apple I will not be upgrading my hardware until something more substantial is done to ameliorate the labor conditions with their suppliers. Since I have been doing said hardware upgrades with Apple since 1985, I believe that my protests will have more weight than "haters" who wouldn't be buying any products from them anyway. Your yelling "Apple is wrong" won't do anything for the workers in China. Maybe it will help you feel good about yourself. But unless you are actually protesting to the companies you support, you are verging toward the hypocritical. Of course, I would have to apologize if those $200 dollar shit boxes you foisted off on companies for years were all made by union workers here is the good old USA. I'm sure they were since you seem to think that is what Apple should do.

I myself made money some time back by coming into fix the poor clients of the cheap things that some simple minded bean counter had purchased when he dealt with those who convinced him to buy the $200 boxes. They had not upgrade path, they wouldn't run new versions of software, and there was no support for the crap that was shipped. I watched lots of those boxes tossed in the dumpsters a year after the bean man "saved" the company all that money.

You want substance? Then address the issue of the companies your support using the same suppliers and practices that you abhor in Apple. Jumping on the "hater" wagon is just wanting to be one of the crowd. A little thought and personal action would serve the cause you espouse better.