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Major Nikon

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52. You might want to check the first rule of debate

Reply to Dewey Finn (Reply #40)

Sun Dec 18, 2011, 05:01 PM

Dec 2011

Just because you don't agree, doesn't mean the other side is wrong.

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Face it... Americans are too comfortable with the idea of Fascism. [View all] nebenaube Dec 2011 OP

I don't think they are so much comfortable with fascism they just don't recognize it as fascism Justice wanted Dec 2011 #1

+1 I agree. We've certainly heard enough Hitler/Fascist comparisions over the years to Duct Tape Dec 2011 #2

We had guys go fight fascism in WWII and not a have brewens Dec 2011 #8

Yeah, they think it's capitalism, and we LOVE capitalism in this country, it's our national religion Remember Me Dec 2011 #9

I had a right winger tell me that it's wrong to teach real history about this country Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #10

What dangerous thinking, absolutely dangerous. Cover up past mistakes so we can RKP5637 Dec 2011 #15

I know. I think it's part of their fear and inflexibility. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #22

I know. It's scary. It's fascist. That's what right wingers are. Fascists. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #54

And also fits right into authoritarianism. Do not think, do as you're told, do not RKP5637 Dec 2011 #55

EXACTLY! The weird thing is that the right wing that told me that... Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #58

I'm convinced, as has been documented in some papers, that peoples minds are RKP5637 Dec 2011 #60

If some are hard-wired to be servants or tyrants... Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #62

Yep, same reasons I love Occupy!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2011 #63

It's not dumb, whatever else it is saras Dec 2011 #69

well, there goes newspeak Dec 2011 #48

Yup. I believe right wingnuts think the REAL America is one that does things the right wingnut way Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #53

Your post is an excellent analysis in a snapshot. Many Americans are passively scumming to RKP5637 Dec 2011 #14

You are right about the Perilous journey. Reality TV has basically destroyed thinking... If it is Justice wanted Dec 2011 #23

It's a human tendancy to accept Fascism Scootaloo Dec 2011 #26

I agree. Most do not recognize this as fascism and wouldn't believe it anyway. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2011 #59

WTF? Is this in response to anything specific? coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #3

I tend to agree quinnox Dec 2011 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Dec 2011 #11

Ah geez. Comfortable with Fascism? pinto Dec 2011 #5

Most American's are not at all in tune with what is going on in this country! The MSM is virtually teddy51 Dec 2011 #6

Defeatist horseshit. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #7

YOur argument isnt very compelling. nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #12

Neither is 'Let's give up'. randome Dec 2011 #19

I am willing to fight for the Constitution. You apparently are willing to give up. rhett o rick Dec 2011 #44

His argument is precisely as compelling as is required. Dewey Finn Dec 2011 #29

He wins because you happen to agree? Major Nikon Dec 2011 #30

I don't entirely agree with him, no. Dewey Finn Dec 2011 #40

He called the poster a "defeatist" and the post "bullshit". How does that win anything. rhett o rick Dec 2011 #47

You might want to check the first rule of debate Major Nikon Dec 2011 #52

Mind if I take this one? SomethingFishy Dec 2011 #45

The corporations control cyglet Dec 2011 #56

I dont believe it is constructive to call someone a "defeatist" and say their post is rhett o rick Dec 2011 #46

I think Thom Hartmann speaks of a book that tells how fascism gradually overtook rhett o rick Dec 2011 #13

Very good point, it's often seen as the other guy did this, or that, or asked for it, but does not RKP5637 Dec 2011 #17

well, I think of the citizens united ruling also leads to fascism newspeak Dec 2011 #49

Definitely! I find the citizens united ruling bizarre, un-democratic and definitely a tool RKP5637 Dec 2011 #50

Just ask Martin Niem�ller... n/t backscatter712 Dec 2011 #20

every time i hear that term HOMELAND oldhippydude Dec 2011 #27

Hadn't thought of that before, but you're absolutely correct!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2011 #33

Me also. nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #42

One such book is "Defying Hitler" by Sebastian Haffner. The parallels are there. nt Nay Dec 2011 #38

Thanks for the info. nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #43

I even think we're too comfortable with the idea of ethnic cleaning XemaSab Dec 2011 #16

I think half of them have been convinced they want it... Burgman Dec 2011 #18

I will not take facism laying down. mick063 Dec 2011 #21

occupy nt Zorra Dec 2011 #24

nothing is real until it affects them personally, that's really the problem StarsInHerHair Dec 2011 #25

It ain't over til the fascist lady sings... AntiFascist Dec 2011 #28

I bet the majority of Americans have no idea whats in this bill newfie11 Dec 2011 #31

Yep, probably that way in most of America. I know some people that think it's just too RKP5637 Dec 2011 #34

That word gets thrown around way too much MFrohike Dec 2011 #32

You make a very good point, "Hitler's a dead horse these days." As you discussed, we RKP5637 Dec 2011 #35

Hitler defined Naziism, not fascism... AntiFascist Dec 2011 #64

I get this MFrohike Dec 2011 #65

I think the key problem is... AntiFascist Dec 2011 #67

Not relevant in America MFrohike Dec 2011 #68

This is precisely why there needs to be a distinction between Nazism and Fascism... AntiFascist Dec 2011 #71

Ok MFrohike Dec 2011 #72

The relevant elements of fascism are fairly easy to identify, even though not as extreme... AntiFascist Dec 2011 #73

I share your frustration and agree jimlup Dec 2011 #36

The reality TV crowd is easily brain washed. sarcasmo Dec 2011 #37

Ignorance is the problem. I doubt that most people even know what fascism is. Plus if they do not jwirr Dec 2011 #39

Agree choie Dec 2011 #41

They don't recognize it as Fascism. Autumn Dec 2011 #51

OVER!??!?!?? hootinholler Dec 2011 #57

human nature is fascist; fascism is the human condition BOG PERSON Dec 2011 #61

YES. Several of my neighbors have been awakened by knocks on their doors at night Nye Bevan Dec 2011 #66

It's nice that they ended up in camps. The DEA just shot my neighbors. And their dog. saras Dec 2011 #70

Not quite. AverageJoe90 Dec 2011 #74