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39. A shutdown that extends into November.

Wed Oct 2, 2013, 11:57 AM

Oct 2013

Past the debt extension deadline, past the point where most people receiving federal paychecks (employed and contract) have exhausted their savings, past the point when winter sets in here in Colorado and we cannot repair our flood-ravaged roads (you can't lay concrete or asphalt in freezing temps), buildings or irrigation system, past the point where our leaking oil and gas wells contaminate the entire watershed... And on, and on, and on.

I'm not advocating any retreat, but the only way we can wear down this Teahadi Tantrum is to get them at a table. When they're isolated in the House Chambers, they think they're powerful because they're hearing nothing but their own echoes and smelling nothing but their own booze-breath. That notion must be disabused.

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The cave begins...Obama invites the republicans for a meeting. [View all] Safetykitten Oct 2013 OP

I sure hope not. hamsterjill Oct 2013 #1

It's very simple. He can't back down. If he does democracy ends that day. It means this is a Katashi_itto Oct 2013 #52

I totally agree with you. hamsterjill Oct 2013 #64

The bombs are on the way to Damascus Renew Deal Oct 2013 #2

Thank you! Kber Oct 2013 #6

They'll get their war on, one way or another. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2013 #17

Nailed it...nt SidDithers Oct 2013 #27

SK is going to start WWIII! zappaman Oct 2013 #85

Link? Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2013 #3

The meeting is about the debt ceiling ProSense Oct 2013 #4

Oh...so like they will be in bubbles that will not allow converstaion off topic...got it. Safetykitten Oct 2013 #5

Who suggested that? Boehner is trying to combine the issues. ProSense Oct 2013 #8

Not getting into a circular worship-fest/propaganda message thingy with you. Safetykitten Oct 2013 #11

Well, you apparently had no idea that the two issues were separate ProSense Oct 2013 #18

So what do you predict the outcome will be? snooper2 Oct 2013 #109

No, you'll just carry on hating intaglio Oct 2013 #123

Yup. nt AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #141

Really?? About the debt ceiling? Really? Are_grits_groceries Oct 2013 #56

Yes, really. That ProSense Oct 2013 #67

Well, this is on the WSJ's front page: Are_grits_groceries Oct 2013 #91

The debt ceiling that he says he won't negotiate on? AgingAmerican Oct 2013 #115

Better not, he'd set the Democratic Party back 50 years. Scuba Oct 2013 #7

Hopefully not. TDale313 Oct 2013 #9

Good move by Obama. He needs Raven Oct 2013 #10

Why? Why does he need to even talk to them? What's the worst that can happen? Safetykitten Oct 2013 #14

Because he is the POTUS and serves ALL the people? Lucinda Oct 2013 #23

+1 Tree-Hugger Oct 2013 #43

You nailed it...! mikeysnot Oct 2013 #54

+100. n/t obnoxiousdrunk Oct 2013 #84

Oh my sharp_stick Oct 2013 #99

You mean Wall Street, neoliberal policymakers, and billionaires? duffyduff Oct 2013 #103

He wasn't elected to implement GOP policies AgingAmerican Oct 2013 #119

+1 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #126

Thank you. n/t Adsos Letter Oct 2013 #131

A shutdown that extends into November. politicat Oct 2013 #39

The place to change that isn't the conference table.... daleanime Oct 2013 #70

Another CPI sacrificial offer? L0oniX Oct 2013 #65

Possibly. Safetykitten Oct 2013 #75

possible not Sheepshank Oct 2013 #95

+ 1..... dhill926 Oct 2013 #15

If he agrees to anything other then a clkean bill, it's a cave. there is nothing to talk about. bowens43 Oct 2013 #57

you hope so your Obama complainfest can continue right? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #79

Well yes. I thought that was the point all along. A clean bill, we are moving goalposts again? Safetykitten Oct 2013 #86

Yes, we should draw conclusions HappyMe Oct 2013 #12

Right on time with the negativity Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #13

Really? republicans? Shame them? Is that a joke? Safetykitten Oct 2013 #19

It is telling that no one here is saying "No way Obama will cave!" nt Logical Oct 2013 #16

Yes, we all know how this plays out. Safetykitten Oct 2013 #21

You seem to know something I don't. NCTraveler Oct 2013 #26

I would imagine the OP consulted this -- HappyMe Oct 2013 #44

The past is prologue AgingAmerican Oct 2013 #122

Yes, that's what Boehner is doing ... Bryn Oct 2013 #127

This individual said they know how it is going to play out. NCTraveler Oct 2013 #135

I imagine many people do not put much faith into their own powers of prophecy LanternWaste Oct 2013 #55

Quite a few have on this and other threads since this stupid one Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #71

Our favorite ACA-hating concern troll has returned! From September 2012 geek tragedy Oct 2013 #20

Thanks. Safetykitten Oct 2013 #22

+1...nt SidDithers Oct 2013 #32

Nmmmm poster was wrong about Romney and Obamacare, but I should believe he/she is right about this? Old and In the Way Oct 2013 #45

Not sure how the OP hasn't been banned yet. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #46

Yes, as a far left Democrat that I am, you may want to bring that up more. Safetykitten Oct 2013 #59

Who just happens to talk exactly like a Tea Partier. nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #68

Well you certainly don't troll as an ignorant Republican teabagger, that's for sure. Old and In the Way Oct 2013 #69

Why, thank you. Very nice compliment. Safetykitten Oct 2013 #76

Whooooosh! Tree-Hugger Oct 2013 #117

You're completely full of s--t. I can say that now. Neener neener neener. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #130

Yeah, right. pnwmom Oct 2013 #132

+1...nt SidDithers Oct 2013 #72

Great catch! zappaman Oct 2013 #90

OP has now been TS'd maddezmom Oct 2013 #94

emilyg? nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #98

No idea maddezmom Oct 2013 #100

!!! zappaman Oct 2013 #89

Wow. A perfect zero in accuracy. MineralMan Oct 2013 #93

See profile--a troll who voted for McCain in 2008 nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #97

Gone where the goblins go, below, below, below. MineralMan Oct 2013 #104

It's a tricky situation for lock steppers quinnox Oct 2013 #24

the things that you obsess over Kolesar Oct 2013 #78

+1,000,000 nt Andy823 Oct 2013 #112

No kidding. nt Bobbie Jo Oct 2013 #138

If he meets with GOPers to even chastise them, he is bad? If he does not, he is good? He can't win. uppityperson Oct 2013 #25

And the ODS continues...nt SidDithers Oct 2013 #28

US meets with Japanese Emperor on USS Missouri, caving is inevitable nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #35

+1 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #133

I'm hoping the republican deathmongers don't budge, and then Obama smacks them down with an EO Zorra Oct 2013 #29

What if it's the repubs who are caving? bigwillq Oct 2013 #30

In front of Wall Street bankers? You kidding? Even they are not that stupid. Safetykitten Oct 2013 #36

You writing about these folks: DonViejo Oct 2013 #73

Yes, we all know how Wall Street is loyal to one side. Check the clock for their loyalty of the Safetykitten Oct 2013 #80

Actually they own BOTH political parties. n/t duffyduff Oct 2013 #107

That is a more likely scenario /nt lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #42

heh. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2013 #49

yea, let's shit on the president before he does anything....go for it. spanone Oct 2013 #31

Past is prologue. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2013 #33

This should be fun Beearewhyain Oct 2013 #34

Here we go again. Andy823 Oct 2013 #37

I wouldn't be so sure. This is the President's second term. Why would he destroy his landmark lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #38

Quick! Panic! Before it's too late! Orrex Oct 2013 #40

Lol jberryhill Oct 2013 #60

How do you know it's a cave? Lex Oct 2013 #41

Seriously? Can't we give him more than 3 seconds Rex Oct 2013 #47

making up shit again Sheepshank Oct 2013 #48

They aren't repealing the ACA and no way they won't raise the debt ceiling. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #50

I think the ACA willbe fine...it's the "little" stuff that is a concern. Me as concern troll. Safetykitten Oct 2013 #53

You just said nothing. Kolesar Oct 2013 #88

Nonsense.. I think the strategy here is to begin to divide the crazies from the not so crazies. DCBob Oct 2013 #51

10 demensional chess again? Looks like spelunking to me..... bowens43 Oct 2013 #61

It doenst take a chess genius to see what the problem is. DCBob Oct 2013 #66

Think that just maybe your being a wee premature here? JHB Oct 2013 #58

Adult in the Room bpj62 Oct 2013 #62

I don't think so. kentuck Oct 2013 #63

premature ejaculation. no it's not a cave. cali Oct 2013 #74

Flame bait tradition on a flame bait thread Kolesar Oct 2013 #83

I NEVER agree with you, but I think this is a perfect response to the OP. ROFL kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #136

Umm.. vdogg Oct 2013 #77

LOL! zappaman Oct 2013 #81

Maybe he'll put them in "time out" KansDem Oct 2013 #82

Yes, the pessimism begins, too, as always. MineralMan Oct 2013 #87

Bye bye troll! zappaman Oct 2013 #92

That one took long enough sharp_stick Oct 2013 #101

About dam time! Rex Oct 2013 #108

Long overdue. Makes one wonder if they should have a bot feature to cross reference geek tragedy Oct 2013 #110

I hope they have something like that. Rex Oct 2013 #111

That was a quick one sharp_stick Oct 2013 #96

As cynical as I am about his dealings, it's a bit early for cries of defeat. PeteSelman Oct 2013 #102

Previously banned anti-Obama troll who voted for McCain in 2008. ProSense Oct 2013 #105

Sweet! HappyMe Oct 2013 #121

Fucking awesome... SidDithers Oct 2013 #106

Concern Troll Goes Back in the Cave DarthDem Oct 2013 #113

Oooohh.. How scary.. conversation.. Much better to stamp your feet and hold your breath... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #114

And you're done... Rex Oct 2013 #116

Another troll banished back to their Cave nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #118

Yes! Buh-bye! Lolol Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #120

Linky, please, to your evidence of Obama "caving", as opposed to sitting them down kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #124

I believe that is exactly what Obama is doing right now Rex Oct 2013 #128

Oh, the hater troll is dead!!! YAYYYYYY!!!!!! kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #125

Tweet from Obama just now: Kingofalldems Oct 2013 #129

Yes, and troops are on the ground in Libya, the bombs are on their way to Damascus, Arkana Oct 2013 #134

I miss the unrec button Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #137

GD is looking better by the minute. LadyHawkAZ Oct 2013 #139

BANNED!!!!!!!! YAY!!!!!!! BUH BYE!!!!!! NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #140

!!! AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #143

But WHY isn't this freak's thread locked? MoonRiver Oct 2013 #146

If he doesn't open up dialogue with the children the arthritisR_US Oct 2013 #142

Posting on your swan song thread makes it easier to find. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #144

Mind if I join you? DevonRex Oct 2013 #148

One of the posters that caused me to walk away from DU for a time. ieoeja Oct 2013 #145

Wishful thinking on your part LordGlenconner Oct 2013 #147