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Rstrstx

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11. Some insight to dates (which never went extinct)
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 04:16 AM
Oct 2013

They may have been destroyed in one local area but the trees have been around for millennia. Dates are dioecious (separate male and female plants, like people), the female trees bear the fruit while the male plants supply the pollen. Given that Phoenix (the botanical name for date palms) are dioecious and complete whores - they'll cross with any of their kinfolk - it's possible the edible date is some sort of hybrid or a distinct ecotype that was discovered by man and subsequently cultivated, possibly enhanced by eugenics.

The better edible dates have to be grown from offshoots of specific cultivars (e.g. Deglet Noor, Medjool), the male parent usually doesn't matter. I'm not sure how long ago clonal propagation first began but it's been many many centuries if not millennia. It's not hard to do: a hammer and chisel can split a pup off of the parent plant at the base and it'll easily grow into a clone of its parent once new roots are established.

Still, random seedling female dates will often have tasty fruit - down here in South Texas you can pick up a ripe date and it usually isn't half bad even if it didn't come from some fancy pants cultivar (though a number can taste pretty underwhelming. Hybrid dates occasionally have decent tasting fruit but it's pretty rare). From the article it sounds like the Judean dates were just grown wild and the fruit was simply gathered off female plants, presumably the ones that tasted good.

The article stated that the sex of the tree should be known by 2012 (no word yet?), if it's female it'd be interesting to see what kind of taste it has. Unfortunately with only one tree it will be impossible to bring this particular strain back into horticulture without another tree of the opposite sex; at best you'll get a half-Judean date palm. I'm sure extensive genetic analysis of this plant will be conducted, in fact I believe the article stated as much. There may be strains of dates around somewhere that are very close to the ancient Judean strain.

I'm pretty sure this is the same tree I read about not that long ago, and it wasn't anywhere near as simple as just picking a seed out of a jar and planting it; very extensive preparation and treatment of the seed was done in a laboratory to enhance its chances of germinating. Luckily it worked, they didn't just throw the seed in a pot and stick it out by the back door to see if it sprouted.

Always neat to read about these things.

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Very cool. Thank you for posting, Harvey. 1000words Oct 2013 #1
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #2
I hope they're able to grow lots more of them. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #3
Whoa! cui bono Oct 2013 #4
Makes sense that a desert plant would have seeds with long shelf-life. Scootaloo Oct 2013 #7
K&R DeSwiss Oct 2013 #5
Next they can bring back egg laying reptile dinosaurs ffr Oct 2013 #6
Nah, this variety just lays turds. n/t Beartracks Oct 2013 #8
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Ednahilda Oct 2013 #42
This is very, very cool. n/t Beartracks Oct 2013 #9
How cool is that... thanks for posting. Ellipsis Oct 2013 #10
Some insight to dates (which never went extinct) Rstrstx Oct 2013 #11
Thanks for the more detailed info. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #13
They can just backcross like crazy, no matter what sex this one is, to get very close. Eventually. enki23 Oct 2013 #36
Interesting, hope it outlasts the ones I buy. Historic NY Oct 2013 #12
Beautiful! Awesome! cer7711 Oct 2013 #14
Nifty. k&r Laelth Oct 2013 #15
reminds me of the shoe with a plant growing in it from the movie wall-e a kennedy Oct 2013 #16
So this is how the zombie apocalypse starts. nt Javaman Oct 2013 #17
You're thinking of The Day of the Triffids. kentauros Oct 2013 #19
Ya got me. Javaman Oct 2013 #20
I just remember watching those old movies kentauros Oct 2013 #21
Loved that scene. Javaman Oct 2013 #24
That is a great scene. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #25
Ohh yeah mikeysnot Oct 2013 #35
du rec. xchrom Oct 2013 #18
Jurassic Garden Berlum Oct 2013 #22
Nice! That is incredible and very hopeful. nt raouldukelives Oct 2013 #23
I'm thrilled that they were able to successfully germinate the seeds. However, it seems that it ladjf Oct 2013 #26
It probably wasn't a desk drawer HarveyDarkey Oct 2013 #30
Why Plant Just One?? Leopolds Ghost Oct 2013 #27
In related news Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #28
K&R. Very cool. Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #29
Now, can they find some Silphium seeds ? eppur_se_muova Oct 2013 #31
OK. THIS IS SPECTACULAR!!!! excuse the caps. robinlynne Oct 2013 #32
IT IS THE END TIMES!! THE PROPHECY HAS COME TRUE!! Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #33
That is amazing!!! kentuck Oct 2013 #34
k/r 840high Oct 2013 #37
that is totally freakin wicked!! n/t NMDemDist2 Oct 2013 #38
Great post! gulliver Oct 2013 #39
that is a cool story Liberal_in_LA Oct 2013 #40
Coolness! n/t malthaussen Oct 2013 #41
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