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31. Diet, mental exercises don't always work

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:38 AM

Oct 2013

Diet and physical and mental exercises work for some of us, but so far not for those who lost the DNA lottery. If you are APOE e4/e4 your chances of Alzheimer's are something like 93%. The numbers are 40% if you compare 4/4 to the general population, over 90% if you compare them to each other. I can't give a reference for this, got the percentages from an Alzheimer's thread on a DNA site. Despair alternates with hope. Mr. Thirties and I are closing in on 80, the age where you become most vulnerable to Alzheimer's We have had our DNA done, I'm protected, he's iffy, may be, may not be.

So much hope from this new study. It's too late for those members of my generation who lost the lottery, but much hope for my children's generation, and certainly for my grandchildren. Eventually Alzheimer's will go the way of polio and smallpox.

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Great News! Alzheimer's breakthrough hailed as 'turning point' [View all] cali Oct 2013 OP

This is good news indeed..... a kennedy Oct 2013 #1

I agree. Devastating illness for all involved. Lochloosa Oct 2013 #3

My "Mild Alzheimer's progress seems to be "on hold" ehcross Oct 2013 #98

That's great news, ehcross! Suich Oct 2013 #109

great news Liberal_in_LA Oct 2013 #116

Dupe bahrbearian Oct 2013 #2

Dupe worthy. Lochloosa Oct 2013 #4

Yup, very dupe worthy! dmr Oct 2013 #105

something like this cannot be posted too often. people could have missed the other post, you know. niyad Oct 2013 #45

Wonderful development! tweeternik Oct 2013 #5

That's great to hear davidpdx Oct 2013 #6

Or eat coconut oil* tridim Oct 2013 #7

Coconut oil? What blather is that? And did you read the bleeding article? No you Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #8

+1 cali Oct 2013 #11

You can use or not use whatever you want. tridim Oct 2013 #23

Some doctors do claim benefits IDemo Oct 2013 #113

Leave it to DU to find the dark cloud behind the silver lining Orrex Oct 2013 #9

There is nothing dark about what I wrote. nt tridim Oct 2013 #24

Did you read what you wrote? Orrex Oct 2013 #26

Coconut oil health benefits are not pseudoscience. tridim Oct 2013 #29

You framed it in terms of stereotypical "Big Pharma Is Evil" Orrex Oct 2013 #30

Thank you. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #53

Some coconut oil will fix you up pronto! Orrex Oct 2013 #56

Do I guzzle it, or rub it on.. places? AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #70

Why must it be one or the other? Orrex Oct 2013 #99

lemme guess- based on studies sponsored by the coconut industry? eShirl Oct 2013 #12

It's all Big Coco to me. nt Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #78

Wife was diagnosed several years ago ... tweeternik Oct 2013 #17

I was going to suggest... CanSocDem Oct 2013 #18

Apparently Rx drugs are the only answer. Disappointing. nt tridim Oct 2013 #20

Apparently wishful thinking is your preferred answer. Unsurprising. nt Orrex Oct 2013 #32

Are you upset that some ppl use diet and exercise instead of prescription drugs to remain healthy? tridim Oct 2013 #34

Nope. Orrex Oct 2013 #37

No, they should use leeches. jeff47 Oct 2013 #38

Why do you think scientists are evil? I sure don't. tridim Oct 2013 #40

Actually, big pharma is scientists. jeff47 Oct 2013 #43

Big pharma is for profit wisechoice Oct 2013 #48

So are most scientists. jeff47 Oct 2013 #49

But their pay check is way smaller wisechoice Oct 2013 #52

Big pharma only exists by employing scientists. jeff47 Oct 2013 #72

That is not the complaint wisechoice Oct 2013 #77

Go look at your first post in this thread jeff47 Oct 2013 #84

it is a discussion forum wisechoice Oct 2013 #112

So you prescribe firing all scientists as a cure for "Big pharma"? Wow. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #81

Reading. Try it. jeff47 Oct 2013 #83

Writing clearly is a great way to making successful posts. I recommend you try it. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #86

I am. You're busy reading in things that I did not write. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2013 #94

So, getting paid is now evil in your book. You work for free. Very kind of you. Thank you. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #80

I'm not the one calling them evil. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2013 #82

You do in posts 43 and 38 Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #85

So still not reading. jeff47 Oct 2013 #89

Ok, say it then. You think Big Pharma is NOT evil. If you think they are "wonderful", you can too. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #96

For brain disease. jeff47 Oct 2013 #126

There were scientists before there was Big Pharma. caseymoz Oct 2013 #66

No one is saying they are the same. jeff47 Oct 2013 #73

You are. Your post 43: "Actually, big pharma is scientists." You equate them. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #88

Constitution of a group is not the entirety of that group. jeff47 Oct 2013 #91

Right. Equating them is not making that distinction. You need to write such distinctions clearly.nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #97

No, you are equating them. jeff47 Oct 2013 #127

You used the word "is" which is equating them. Your choice of word. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #137

No, is can also be used for constituency. jeff47 Oct 2013 #138

No more and no less that Ted Nugent is a rocker... LanternWaste Oct 2013 #71

Actually, medicinal leeches are still today. DeadEyeDyck Oct 2013 #76

Not for brain diseases. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2013 #131

Hey! Leaches are cool! Maraya1969 Oct 2013 #111

Good. I'm starting to forget everything ecstatic Oct 2013 #10

No form of death... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #28

Forgetting things isn't a sign of anything jeff47 Oct 2013 #39

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #13

That is great news! Sissyk Oct 2013 #14

Even better than a drug, they might find dietary items that would fight it. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #15

I'm sorry, but it's ridiculous to make that claim cali Oct 2013 #25

I should have used the word "prevent", consistent with notion of activities that prevent it listed. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #27

Not sure if "that claim" refers to the OP or my post, but here is some information Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #33

There's a tiny grain of truth in the claim jeff47 Oct 2013 #42

You clearly know little about diet and the blood brain barrier. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #90

:facepalm: jeff47 Oct 2013 #93

Your strawman. Only you are claiming anyone is claiming foods "cure" a brain disease. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #100

Or you could go read the first post I responded to, which claimed coconut oil was a cure. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2013 #128

That post #7 never mentions "cure". You are the only one talking about a cure. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #136

It presents it as a treatment in place of the one in the OP. That means "cure". (nt) jeff47 Oct 2013 #139

Only you would think that "treatment" means "cure" or that prevention means "cure". Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #141

You attack a non exist antecedent and claim therefore the science is junk. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #103

:facepalm: again. jeff47 Oct 2013 #130

Your post has binary thinking again & you confuse adding an additional means with replacing one. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #135

Your post also has an internal logical contradiction: Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #95

If someone would actually read... rexcat Oct 2013 #118

Beta amyloid... rexcat Oct 2013 #117

Diet, mental exercises don't always work Thirties Child Oct 2013 #31

See my post 33. Diet, exercise, & stimulation are very effective & can slow progression of the Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #36

Well that didn't work for my friend... Blue Idaho Oct 2013 #92

1) Parkinsons is not dementia. 2) Diet won't help everybody but it will help many. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #104

Reading beyond the title... Blue Idaho Oct 2013 #108

Friend recently diagnosed. redwitch Oct 2013 #35

That lifestyle may have delayed it for him Duer 157099 Oct 2013 #50

How can you possibly make that assertion with any confidence? Orrex Oct 2013 #55

Two words: Duer 157099 Oct 2013 #63

Are they largescale longitudinal studies spanning decades? Orrex Oct 2013 #65

Yes, longitudinal studies, a famous one being with nuns. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #120

678 participants doesn't seem all that largescale to me Orrex Oct 2013 #122

You are free to stop exercising and sit on a couch watching TV with bags of chips if you want to. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #123

Petty. And irrelevant. Orrex Oct 2013 #125

I posted meaningfully supportive references about exercise early in the thread. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #140

It's not that simple Orrex Oct 2013 #142

Exactly, "no shit". And you can raise the bar all you want. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #144

Nope. Orrex Oct 2013 #145

She's early 60's. redwitch Oct 2013 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #134

I like to play Spider Solitaire...will that help? Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #59

I think the only benefit of that would b its semi-meditative aspect, slightly helpful to gen. health Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #121

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #16

A few months too late for my late father... Orsino Oct 2013 #19

Here's to medical research ~! toby jo Oct 2013 #21

Excellent! Good news. lonestarnot Oct 2013 #22

Great stuff. Need to pry on the prions. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #41

great news ! steve2470 Oct 2013 #44

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #46

As someone who lost a parent to this horrible, horrible disease truebluegreen Oct 2013 #47

I hope this can be productized in a reasonable amount of time...... Swede Atlanta Oct 2013 #51

I am forever bemoaning the fact that virtually no money is spent to try to figure out kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #54

It's like climate change... too scary to think about. hunter Oct 2013 #61

Or stop eating cows. randome Oct 2013 #67

It's one of the reasons I have (for the most part). kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #115

Plenty of research into the causes is going on. Posteritatis Oct 2013 #114

I wonder if Michael Fox could use his celebrity status to be part of a controlled trial. randome Oct 2013 #57

He has Alzheimer's? Orrex Oct 2013 #58

Reading past the headline is indicated. cthulu2016 Oct 2013 #60

Don't get in the way of my snark, dammit! Orrex Oct 2013 #62

I doubt he would be willing. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #102

Wow. That's an interesting perspective. randome Oct 2013 #129

I was a little surprised by it too. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #133

and to think country which has lovuian Oct 2013 #64

I'd be a little more cautious. caseymoz Oct 2013 #68

Hurry. Scuba Oct 2013 #69

These stories never pan out. sagat Oct 2013 #74

"Medical Research Council showed all brain cell death from prion disease could be prevented" Sunlei Oct 2013 #75

k&r... spanone Oct 2013 #79

I hope and Pray this breakthrough is all they say it is and more! Blue Idaho Oct 2013 #87

How Wonderful This Could Be colsohlibgal Oct 2013 #101

This is indeed very promising news. cristianmarie533 Oct 2013 #106

Great news indeed. The older I get the scarier the prospect of dementia is... Hekate Oct 2013 #107

Good news for the 1%. I'm sure the 99% won't have any access to it. valerief Oct 2013 #110

Treating sleep apnea would help with dementia. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2013 #119

Good news. JohnnyLib2 Oct 2013 #132

I hope they come up with something for Parkinsons' mitchtv Oct 2013 #143