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172. every other legal profession comes under OSHA

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 04:29 PM

Oct 2013

OSHA regulates every other industry in America, can you imagine if the printing trade suddenly had graphic artists being concussed every week and receiving torn ligaments while performing their jobs?

The fines would be crippling to that business. Some legal analysts claim OSHA applies to the NFL but OSHA does nothing with respect to the NFL. At least not in any real cognitive sense.

I think you are right that people don't care about football players, at least not in quantifying injuries. But I do believe that eventually once publicity made clear the horrendous working conditions in some businesses that people were concerned about mine workers being killed and all workers being injured, it's why our politicians were able to create OSHA in the first place.

I think this kind of debate shines a similar light on pro football, and doesn't show the owners or the NFL as great guys. It kind of shows them to be selfish pr1cks more concerned about making a buck than worrying about crippling injuries and serious brain trauma in the face of mounting statistical evidence of these events.

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The NFL..... I think I am over it, are you? [View all] Bennyboy Oct 2013 OP

They're just our modern-day Gladiators. Atman Oct 2013 #1

Yes. There was a football/concussion thread a few weeks ago, and I mentioned Sheldon Cooper Oct 2013 #10

Actually there are a couple of rule changes. HappyMe Oct 2013 #13

It's too late. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #107

It's not a done deal yet. HappyMe Oct 2013 #114

I think it is. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #118

Soccer isn't bread and circuses? HappyMe Oct 2013 #121

Not as much blood. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #124

Soccer fans beat the living hell out of one another. HappyMe Oct 2013 #134

Perhaps I was too literal for you. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #136

You don't care so much that HappyMe Oct 2013 #138

Have you got a point? truebluegreen Oct 2013 #167

Have you got a point? HappyMe Oct 2013 #169

I made my point; yours seems to be that you don't like it. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #177

It seems to bother you that I don't agree with your opinion/point. HappyMe Oct 2013 #179

"Freedumb"? zappaman Oct 2013 #171

Nope. Just Freedumb. Why? truebluegreen Oct 2013 #176

I don't understand you use of "freedumb". zappaman Oct 2013 #183

I'm not in favor of freedumb, truebluegreen Oct 2013 #195

Take it from someone who watches the Premier League LittleBlue Oct 2013 #133

My sons played soccer for awhile. HappyMe Oct 2013 #135

The world's most boring sport... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #180

Don't even know what that is nor, truebluegreen Oct 2013 #181

I was referring to soccer. nt awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #188

Concussion discussion nil desperandum Oct 2013 #17

You seem to be saying that there is simply nothing that can be done, and I don't buy that. Sheldon Cooper Oct 2013 #36

Money nil desperandum Oct 2013 #128

The players have to deal with things like that The2ndWheel Oct 2013 #140

every other legal profession comes under OSHA nil desperandum Oct 2013 #172

I understand now, and you make perfect sense. Sheldon Cooper Oct 2013 #154

sense nil desperandum Oct 2013 #165

I'm sure you'd hear the "but but but" from players too The2ndWheel Oct 2013 #35

Maybe we should have a national discussion on why our culture glorifies brutality & violence. -nt CrispyQ Oct 2013 #80

I'm guessing it would be a complicated answer The2ndWheel Oct 2013 #123

Amount of money they're paid isn't because of risk JonLP24 Oct 2013 #173

Wish I could quit my Aron Rodgers crush. elfin Oct 2013 #2

But it's still baseball season? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #3

I hear you pscot Oct 2013 #4

I'm over being lectured HappyMe Oct 2013 #5

+1! n/t zappaman Oct 2013 #14

Agree.. yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #19

You finally have a QB! zappaman Oct 2013 #21

I loved that game against yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #23

I picked up Keenan Allen the day of that game Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #24

Chiefs may be 5-0, but it's a soft 5-0 zappaman Oct 2013 #25

I think you're right. HappyMe Oct 2013 #34

tough crowd Lurker Deluxe Oct 2013 #87

yay! Touch Down Raaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiders! yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #88

That was a soft win Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #207

That game on Sunday yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #208

Best reply in this thread LittleBlue Oct 2013 #38

+1 LordGlenconner Oct 2013 #77

Interesting avatar and screen name-- truebluegreen Oct 2013 #113

Played it in elementary school, middle school and high school LordGlenconner Oct 2013 #126

What HappyMe said. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #146

The two hours of ads for a one hour game does it for me...nt Jesus Malverde Oct 2013 #6

no kidding nil desperandum Oct 2013 #27

If the brutal injuries aren't enough, there's always Howee, Jimmee, Terree and Mikee BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #7

I've been over it for awhile. City Lights Oct 2013 #8

Sports are our modern day opium of the people nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #9

Been over it all my life nil desperandum Oct 2013 #11

Should I start Chris Johnson or Andre Ellington as my flex? Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #12

I'm so over CJ2K. Ya might be better off finding a WR to put in your flex. Inkfreak Oct 2013 #75

I'm keeping him on the roster Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #83

No, on CJ for this week. Sissyk Oct 2013 #92

Rape culture in the NFL? Gun culture in the NFL? AgingAmerican Oct 2013 #15

All of society's ills HappyMe Oct 2013 #55

Bullshit. zappaman Oct 2013 #58

Crap. HappyMe Oct 2013 #69

You forgot smokers and pit bulls. WTF. nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #166

And Olive Garden breast feeders. nt awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #185

I think we can all agree the NFL is not as bad as NASA... zappaman Oct 2013 #186

I still have a couple of those threads bookmarkered... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #189

So go watch golf. former9thward Oct 2013 #16

Watching golf is really dangerous jakeXT Oct 2013 #82

It would be dangerous for me. HappyMe Oct 2013 #98

I knew there was a reason I've never been on a golf course. former9thward Oct 2013 #120

As soon as my team wins the Superbowl maxsolomon Oct 2013 #18

LOL, yes because the players don't know it is dangerous! Silly post! nt Logical Oct 2013 #20

Who do you like this weekend in the OAK/KC game? zappaman Oct 2013 #22

KC is legit Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #26

I don't know about that.. Upton Oct 2013 #31

I agree zappaman Oct 2013 #33

Lemme rephrase Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #43

Defense is decent. zappaman Oct 2013 #48

But if you take out the Chiefs, they're 7-13! BlueCheese Oct 2013 #158

my OAKLAND RAIDERS OF COURSE!... yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #97

I have to go with KC jeff47 Oct 2013 #116

Ever since the league invited Vick to return and play... LanternWaste Oct 2013 #28

I have not Tree-Hugger Oct 2013 #56

As I'm a Dallas fan, I haven't really been missing anything anyway. LanternWaste Oct 2013 #68

You are a Cowboys fan, therefore, I cannot agree with you. Tree-Hugger Oct 2013 #159

Don't throw snowballs at me! LanternWaste Oct 2013 #192

Vick already has spent time in prison, Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #200

Give up football because of a concussions study? lol no LittleBlue Oct 2013 #29

LOL? HERVEPA Oct 2013 #59

Yes, lol LittleBlue Oct 2013 #62

Hilarious... Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #101

I saw a short preview for this davidpdx Oct 2013 #199

Geez HERVEPA Oct 2013 #102

Or maybe we're just not tools LittleBlue Oct 2013 #108

I'm with you nil desperandum Oct 2013 #142

In this usage, "exploit" means to use a current medical consensus to invalidate an emotional and irr LanternWaste Oct 2013 #194

Rape culture? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #30

For every Aldon Smith, there is a Vernon Davis eissa Oct 2013 #32

As a big 49er fan I agree 100%.. Upton Oct 2013 #65

We heard about him when he was the "bad boy" eissa Oct 2013 #74

Exactly. HappyMe Oct 2013 #91

"love the guy?" Bennyboy Oct 2013 #94

He's 23 eissa Oct 2013 #96

just men acting like boys. n/t. okieinpain Oct 2013 #37

My Giants are soon to be 0-6 d_b Oct 2013 #39

I'm still shocked at their play this season. zappaman Oct 2013 #41

I've no idea what's going on d_b Oct 2013 #84

Look at the bright side LittleBlue Oct 2013 #45

Clowney seems to be doing his level best to avoid even being a first-round pick KamaAina Oct 2013 #73

I sure hope so! LittleBlue Oct 2013 #81

My Bears needed a break ballabosh Oct 2013 #196

Just be thankful that the Giants at least won 2 SBs recently; Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #201

I wish we had a pro NFL team here in Jacksonville NightWatcher Oct 2013 #40

LOL! zappaman Oct 2013 #42

my friend thinks they're sucking on purpose so the city wont mind when they move to London NightWatcher Oct 2013 #47

I don't think there will be a London team. zappaman Oct 2013 #53

Jags aren't going anywhere. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #127

And you're facing Manning this Sunday eissa Oct 2013 #44

28 point spread as of yesterday NightWatcher Oct 2013 #51

You would take Denver or Jax? zappaman Oct 2013 #57

I'd take Jax and 28 points NightWatcher Oct 2013 #70

I'd take it as well ... Lurker Deluxe Oct 2013 #100

Peyton Manning's only as good as his neck. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #129

Well, since I'm against him on Fantasy this week..... eissa Oct 2013 #131

PM has basically been Denver's entire team. Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #203

They'll be playing their home games in London soon Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #46

They're only 28 point underdogs to the Broncos this weekend.. Upton Oct 2013 #60

I like college football better. Drunken Irishman Oct 2013 #49

Well..the same handwringers who don't think much of the NFL.. Upton Oct 2013 #71

Either that Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #204

never my bag datasuspect Oct 2013 #50

everyone needs to watch this.... League Of Denial Bennyboy Oct 2013 #52

^^^ THIS ^^^ Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #67

This is just like the 20s and 30s when the Hollywood big studios ran the town Warpy Oct 2013 #54

Interesting choice of words - HappyMe Oct 2013 #79

Football promotes a primative ideal of mascualinity. Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #119

I am a former long suffering Detroit Lion and current Tampa Bay Bucs Fan. Ganja Ninja Oct 2013 #61

WTF happened to Freeman? zappaman Oct 2013 #64

We'll see think Oct 2013 #106

He'll be OK. n/t Ganja Ninja Oct 2013 #143

Put yourself in his place. Ganja Ninja Oct 2013 #141

Attendance is down since 2007 FarCenter Oct 2013 #63

I'll be in section 3 on Sunday. LeftyMom Oct 2013 #66

I'll be in 201 Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #78

We're going in December eissa Oct 2013 #93

I live in Minnesota, where we don't really have an NFL team. MineralMan Oct 2013 #72

But I thought it was being paid for with "electronic pulltabs". legcramp Oct 2013 #125

Nah. That trick didn't work. MineralMan Oct 2013 #130

I thought that Gov Dayton, a progressiive DFL'er, was behind the push for the legcramp Oct 2013 #145

That was a big disappointment for me. MineralMan Oct 2013 #148

Man, my team hasn't won a game this year and I'm still invested in it. n/t reflection Oct 2013 #76

did you onethatcares Oct 2013 #139

Nah, I come from a non-NFL city reflection Oct 2013 #151

tampa bay had that cute little gizmo onethatcares Oct 2013 #160

We were "done" with MOST professional sports a long time ago SoCalDem Oct 2013 #85

I was watching frontline recently, and they mentioned even injuries to the brain from a normal game jakeXT Oct 2013 #86

seeing brain deterioration in HS and college now... Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #90

I love to watch football. Sissyk Oct 2013 #89

I was never really a fan, but Vick's return switched me to active disliking. n/t Orsino Oct 2013 #95

The Seahawks are looking fantastic this year. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #99

I know as a bleeding-heart liberal I shouldn't say this, but eissa Oct 2013 #109

He does have a big mouth. I usually don't watch it when he gives interviews. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #144

Sorry, I can't. I'm a Ravens fan. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #103

Hey, thanks for Boldin eissa Oct 2013 #105

You're welcome. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #110

LOL! Ok, I had that coming :-) eom eissa Oct 2013 #111

Tis okay. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #112

Which one?! eissa Oct 2013 #115

Exactly. :) Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #117

My Dad took me to Raider Games at the Age of 3 yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #122

Stop putting your stands right on top of the outfield! BlueCheese Oct 2013 #163

Good luck with that... yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #168

Obviously you did not watch Frontline a few days ago. ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2013 #104

If I stopped watching/enjoying/doing things because of bad people... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #132

If you stopped watching/enjoying/doing things because of bad people... ElboRuum Oct 2013 #153

Yup, says the girl who has never drank any beer more refined ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #170

i am a-ok w/ radical changes. back to leather helmets and less padding. RUGBY?? pansypoo53219 Oct 2013 #137

I never was into it in the first place. calimary Oct 2013 #147

People pay to watch them do it The2ndWheel Oct 2013 #156

Because they are ruining the game by taking out the defense, yes. PeteSelman Oct 2013 #149

Nope. ElboRuum Oct 2013 #150

I think football should be removed from schools, including universities. ZombieHorde Oct 2013 #152

Pre teen football=Child abuse thread from way back.... Bennyboy Oct 2013 #155

It's not child abuse. HappyMe Oct 2013 #161

+100! zappaman Oct 2013 #164

abuse is abuse my friend...... semantics aside.... Bennyboy Oct 2013 #178

No, it does not describe what happens in sports. HappyMe Oct 2013 #187

The injuries have driven me away. BlueCheese Oct 2013 #157

What's I'm really over is paying for new stadiums BainsBane Oct 2013 #162

^^^This^^^ Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #205

Gave up on it years ago, it's pure commercialism, no sport remains Corruption Inc Oct 2013 #174

Fuck the NFL, I gave it up a long time ago quinnox Oct 2013 #175

I haven't really paid much attention since the Jim Kiick/Larry Csonka/Mercury Morris days Buns_of_Fire Oct 2013 #182

Watching grown men run around and give each other TBIs and cheer because they "represent" your city? NuclearDem Oct 2013 #184

Been over it. The Browns have been trotting out rapist Jim Brown for decades. we can do it Oct 2013 #190

I'd prefer Rollerball BKH70041 Oct 2013 #191

Stupid ass penalties to protect QBs and favor the passing game tabasco Oct 2013 #193

Never been into it. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2013 #197

NFL North Carolina Knigh Oct 2013 #198

The NFL and NCAAF Go Vols Oct 2013 #202

I've never understood the appeal of American Football in general cristianmarie533 Oct 2013 #206

Competitive sports is close to brainwashing, imo Shankapotomus Oct 2013 #209

I like how you say you're over the NFL and then refer to "your team" Orrex Oct 2013 #210